Tomorrow Untrodden
posted by max on November 05, 2010 at 01:26:07 AM
Greetings.
I've taken the next few weeks off from work to have another YTMND development drive. This will include much-needed maintenance, bug fixes and a few new features. In addition to this, I've been working with Big Spaceship over the last month working on a new design, which I'll be implementing as well. If I have the remaining time, I'll be fixing up the admin panels and possibly adding some new mods.
So this is your chance to complain about anything (aside from the design) that's been bugging you recently or stuff you've been dying for.
I'll keep you guys updated over the next few weeks in between eating handfuls of adderall. Please provide useful feedback and bug reports. While I'm working on the new codebase, I'm going to be moderating with an iron fist. There will be zero tolerance for spamming/trolling/etc, so unless you want all your accounts deleted and to be IP banned at our routers, please try and behave for once.
Please do not bother me about being a moderator, when the time comes I'll make a news post about it.
I've taken the next few weeks off from work to have another YTMND development drive. This will include much-needed maintenance, bug fixes and a few new features. In addition to this, I've been working with Big Spaceship over the last month working on a new design, which I'll be implementing as well. If I have the remaining time, I'll be fixing up the admin panels and possibly adding some new mods.
So this is your chance to complain about anything (aside from the design) that's been bugging you recently or stuff you've been dying for.
I'll keep you guys updated over the next few weeks in between eating handfuls of adderall. Please provide useful feedback and bug reports. While I'm working on the new codebase, I'm going to be moderating with an iron fist. There will be zero tolerance for spamming/trolling/etc, so unless you want all your accounts deleted and to be IP banned at our routers, please try and behave for once.
Please do not bother me about being a moderator, when the time comes I'll make a news post about it.
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This sucks. I miss DragonGate. It’s times like this (Thanksgiving and Christmas) that I want to be with the one I love, but she is on the other side of the world.
Although I am sad, I am more than willing to share her with the Army. I told her more than once that I be more than accepting if she makes the Army a career. I will highly recommend to her that she stay in the Army until they no longer wanted her. Then I can have her all to myself.
Well, see ya’ later!
Mood: Sad
Music: “Desert Rose” by Sting
Book: (None)
Although I am sad, I am more than willing to share her with the Army. I told her more than once that I be more than accepting if she makes the Army a career. I will highly recommend to her that she stay in the Army until they no longer wanted her. Then I can have her all to myself.
Well, see ya’ later!
Mood: Sad
Music: “Desert Rose” by Sting
Book: (None)
Okay, at the risk of sounding like I'm complaining, I honestly was not expecting very much, but I'm still curious about this. My latest site got a 4.57 and only 200 votes. How did that happen? 300 used to be the amount that kicked you off Up and Coming, and if you managed to get in Top Rated too you could probably get over 1,000, but that was way back when, I know. Users have left, but for some reason there's still discussion going on in the news. So I figured I'd ask you guys what you think.
Suddenly we have tons of users and now we seem to have a max of 200 browsing the front page every week. What happened here? Is this Hill Valley or is it Hell? What do you think caused all the users to leave? How do you think we can bring back a large userbase?
Suddenly we have tons of users and now we seem to have a max of 200 browsing the front page every week. What happened here? Is this Hill Valley or is it Hell? What do you think caused all the users to leave? How do you think we can bring back a large userbase?
9PM Thursday someone tunes into NBC only to find a loud screeching noise and a flashing screen that hurts their eyes. The next Thursday they find text reporting on what show Umfuld is currently watching with fad music. The ratings will probably show a decline.
After so many years do you really not understand this?
You are capable of making some really good sites but you upvote a lot of troll garbage. You certainly never down vote it. I had some respect for you when I thought you knew your sites would get fewer views because of this but you did this anyway for the luls. But seeing you now complain about it? I am disappoint.
After so many years do you really not understand this?
You are capable of making some really good sites but you upvote a lot of troll garbage. You certainly never down vote it. I had some respect for you when I thought you knew your sites would get fewer views because of this but you did this anyway for the luls. But seeing you now complain about it? I am disappoint.
I look forward to the day when you all gain the power to alter reality with the YTMND +/- comment feature and are able to cause the rest of the internet to be just as interested in what troll site I recently down voted and will be happy to find 3 sites about it and glad to be able to plus your comments on said top rated sites reading "LOL".
There isn't one reason why people leave. Content is the main reason, but it isn't the only one. People just move on. They find a new site to hang out. They leave because no one notices their crappy sites. They leave because of trolls or they get bored trolling here. They get other priorities like work and/or families. They leave because they got frustrated with Max and his empty promises (like Afrotech and Bloomer). They leave because they got sick of waiting three years for Max to update the site and when it did get updated they found the layout ugly. I think Sitsu left because people kept harassing him. They left because of Moon Man sites. They left because of spamming. They leave for many reasons. YTMND started it's decline in late 2008/early 2009.
I work 60 hours a week, which is why I don't come here as much and don't make a lot of sites.
I don't think we can bring back a larger userbase. YTMND isn't getting the publicity like it did in 2005 and 2006. It's a limiting medium and what was a novelty five years ago is now behind the times.
I work 60 hours a week, which is why I don't come here as much and don't make a lot of sites.
I don't think we can bring back a larger userbase. YTMND isn't getting the publicity like it did in 2005 and 2006. It's a limiting medium and what was a novelty five years ago is now behind the times.
The way I see it is that YTMND is being run into the ground by a destructive feedback loop of doubt, frustration, angst, incompetence, apathy, disgust, and a natural loss of interest. Users have been leaving since the beginning of ytmnd's existence, but its produced only a gradual unnoticeable decline for the first couple years because the user base was quite high when ytmnd's quality was first put into doubt, not to mention that ytmnd saw enough growth to balance out user loss. As soon as ytmnd was cut off from its major supply of new users (I'm not sure what that was), it was already in permanent decay. I kind of visualize ytmnd's community history as a parabola that has fed its own decline exponentially. One cause and effect scenario being: the more people make shitty sites, the more people leave, the more people leave, the more people stop caring, the more people stop caring, the more people make shitty sites, etc. Also, there are plenty of specific cases where users only stayed because certain users made sites, so one small event could have triggered a mass abandonment, if that user was popular. I'm guessing this happened with users like mastersitsu, but I wasn't really involved in that subset of the community back then, so I can't be sure. In addition, there was demographic change when the scene from the movie 300 became a fad. I guess a lot of users felt alienated by its popularity, and decided ytmnd was no longer the place for them, because something about ytmnd felt different after that, though I still enjoyed it. Personally the spamming and quasi-popularity of moon man sites has put me off considerably. And yet, I persist.
I see there's still a lot of debate and the users still feel the urge to express their feelings and discuss about serious issues related to this website and the community. I think it's time for me to say something too.
Most of you blame the decline to the quality of the sites. That's true. That's true when the sites are [b]not[/b] the reflection of what the users feel about a show, a celebrity, a cartoon. I've always said that noise sites are annoying to the point of scaring everyone. That's trolling. I know that, because this very same reason pushed me away from this site in 2006. YES! the same year I officially joined this site! I was much more happy when dickcream was online, because that was stuff worth watching. You also complain about the downvoting practice, which is unfair to say at least. That's trolling. You also complain about stupid fads (including the racist ones.) That becomes trolling when the entire platform becomes full of them and practically useless. That rings a bell, doesn't it?
I won't express my personal reasons about the decline of this website. As you can see I just made a mostly objective list of some things that are happening on this site. If you guys are really good at looking for stuff, you maybe will find a comment I made some time ago about how this site is unmoderated: you do the math. But there's something I still need to say: blaming it on a programmer seems a little convenient to me. You can complain about a centralized management of this site, but unless you don't know how much work and hours and money you have to spend in front of a computer just to make a bunch of fat asses satisfied, you shouldn't even mention who codes this website.
You also know that by voting you have a responsibility to be reasonable and make this website healthy. I wonder why almost nobody pointed it out!
Most of you blame the decline to the quality of the sites. That's true. That's true when the sites are [b]not[/b] the reflection of what the users feel about a show, a celebrity, a cartoon. I've always said that noise sites are annoying to the point of scaring everyone. That's trolling. I know that, because this very same reason pushed me away from this site in 2006. YES! the same year I officially joined this site! I was much more happy when dickcream was online, because that was stuff worth watching. You also complain about the downvoting practice, which is unfair to say at least. That's trolling. You also complain about stupid fads (including the racist ones.) That becomes trolling when the entire platform becomes full of them and practically useless. That rings a bell, doesn't it?
I won't express my personal reasons about the decline of this website. As you can see I just made a mostly objective list of some things that are happening on this site. If you guys are really good at looking for stuff, you maybe will find a comment I made some time ago about how this site is unmoderated: you do the math. But there's something I still need to say: blaming it on a programmer seems a little convenient to me. You can complain about a centralized management of this site, but unless you don't know how much work and hours and money you have to spend in front of a computer just to make a bunch of fat asses satisfied, you shouldn't even mention who codes this website.
You also know that by voting you have a responsibility to be reasonable and make this website healthy. I wonder why almost nobody pointed it out!
AND THE NEWS COMMENT PAGE IS REALLY FUNNY
I was going to count but i'm willing to bet only around 20 ytmnders control the tides nowadays. And i'd say out of those 20, maybe 7 are legitimate posters with good taste.
OH I REMEMBER WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY NOW
[i]GONNA GO BACK IN TIME FOR THIS STORY[/i]
I deleted my votes a few years back, might be 2 or 3 now i'm not sure, anyway I deleted all my votes because I knew my personal tastes in sites was pretty uhh how do you put it, I won't say bad because i'm not going to jump right on and insult myself here but lets just say there were some noise and troll sites that I enjoyed, and I only accumulated like 500 votes within 4 years anyway and I was just 5 gray star voting anyway so
OKAY FUCK THAT STORY
ummmmmmmmmmmm
yeah
just, just keep on making sites don't worry about anything the site will turn out just fine I promise
I was going to count but i'm willing to bet only around 20 ytmnders control the tides nowadays. And i'd say out of those 20, maybe 7 are legitimate posters with good taste.
OH I REMEMBER WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY NOW
[i]GONNA GO BACK IN TIME FOR THIS STORY[/i]
I deleted my votes a few years back, might be 2 or 3 now i'm not sure, anyway I deleted all my votes because I knew my personal tastes in sites was pretty uhh how do you put it, I won't say bad because i'm not going to jump right on and insult myself here but lets just say there were some noise and troll sites that I enjoyed, and I only accumulated like 500 votes within 4 years anyway and I was just 5 gray star voting anyway so
OKAY FUCK THAT STORY
ummmmmmmmmmmm
yeah
just, just keep on making sites don't worry about anything the site will turn out just fine I promise
I can't. The design itself is finished. Porting it to HTML/CSS/JS is not even close. There are new features I have to write into the back end before the new design will even work.
I know everyone wants the new design, but my priority is fixing bugs, getting the admin panel back up fully, and finishing off the unfinished features. I want the next release of YTMND to be a lot more stable than 2.0.
I know everyone wants the new design, but my priority is fixing bugs, getting the admin panel back up fully, and finishing off the unfinished features. I want the next release of YTMND to be a lot more stable than 2.0.
Though I'm still seeing a huge amount of finger-pointing, I like the way I'm learning some info about you users, not by what idea you have of the others, but by how you express yourselves. To me it seems pretty easy to know when your arguments are justifiable and when you're just a stream of blather, like "I hit everything that moves, I don't care if I miss it, I have to do it anyway." What I don't see, unfortunately, is someone who is available to discuss objectively how to, at least, improve the general mood. Recently, I've seen a great positive response from Senor Data, and my memory came back where creativity was valued as such. Things like Senor Data are not fads per se, but open places in which you know the subject of the work you're going to create.
Someone is still suggesting or wishing some particular users as mods. I believe that moderators don't actually have an opinion on what they're moderating, they just follow a specific set of rules, so that they can reduce any misunderstanding. For example: a mod has to remove any picture containing people with a specific eye color.
Finally, I believe YTMND is less than a social network and more of a showcase. Imagine a big empty stage, open to everyone. There are enough microphones for anybody and you can:
A) jump on stage and make the sound you want contributing to a supposed "wall of sound";
B) make a mess.
It's all about what choice you believe you're making.
Someone is still suggesting or wishing some particular users as mods. I believe that moderators don't actually have an opinion on what they're moderating, they just follow a specific set of rules, so that they can reduce any misunderstanding. For example: a mod has to remove any picture containing people with a specific eye color.
Finally, I believe YTMND is less than a social network and more of a showcase. Imagine a big empty stage, open to everyone. There are enough microphones for anybody and you can:
A) jump on stage and make the sound you want contributing to a supposed "wall of sound";
B) make a mess.
It's all about what choice you believe you're making.
Also, I always have to play with the debug menu in order to see any reply on the last comment made (as long as it's hidden.)
Also, I have to expand the (hidden) comment "A" that is apparently the last, in order to see any reply to "A" and the other (real) last comment "B" that is not a reply to "A".
... I think I just made a bug report!
Also, I have to expand the (hidden) comment "A" that is apparently the last, in order to see any reply to "A" and the other (real) last comment "B" that is not a reply to "A".
... I think I just made a bug report!
Hey max, since so much user activity is exposed already through Spy and user profile page, I think there should be a way for site creators to view a summary of the voting history on their sites - a page where you can see each vote and who cast it/when it was cast. I'm always curious to see how my sites are received, and it would be awesome to be able to watch how they fare over time. I imagine having a "Site History" icon right next to the "Edit Site" icon, on my profile site summary page, and it takes me to a page laid out like the "activity" page on my profile.
Thanks for creating my favorite website, max. Happy New Year.
Thanks for creating my favorite website, max. Happy New Year.
Now that Mik3m is gone (again) there's something about him that always bugged me. He always acted like he was better than everyone and claimed voting doesn't matter. Yet he always upvoted his own sites with his nedm-rules account. I've known about that alt for years and I'm sure others know about it. It never bothered me. One alt account doesn't do anything in the long run. It just seemed hypocritical. He really does care no matter how many times he claimed not to. I mean why post a couple of sites a day just for your own enjoyment? If they are only just for you, then make the mixes and copy them to your iPod. His images were mostly irrelevant. Perhaps nedm-rules isn't him, but I doubt it.
mik3m once told me in a PM that he doesn't care about ytmnd and if he could make his site private, he would. i responded by reminding him that he organized every single one of his rap mashups into like 7 albums and uploaded them onto torrents and posted the link here. in my mind, he's always been the king shit of claiming he doesn't care when in fact he cares far more than most. he also makes user inside joke sites.
UMFULD'S LATEST SITE
[site fuckinghomo:site]
Umfuld posts a poorly edited screenshot of something completely inconsequential from my profile activity page
He imbedded the screenshot into a troll site about me, therefore killing YTMND with his cancer
If I could just step in here and say (not stay) you trolled us so?
You trolled us so.
[site fuckinghomo:site]
Umfuld posts a poorly edited screenshot of something completely inconsequential from my profile activity page
He imbedded the screenshot into a troll site about me, therefore killing YTMND with his cancer
If I could just step in here and say (not stay) you trolled us so?
You trolled us so.
Greetings.
I've taken the next few weeks off from work to have another YTMND development drive. This will include much-needed maintenance, bug fixes and a few new features. In addition to this, I've been working with Big Spaceship over the last month working on a new design, which I'll be implementing as well. If I have the remaining time, I'll be fixing up the admin panels and possibly adding some new mods.
So this is your chance to complain about anything (aside from the design) that's been bugging you recently or stuff you've been dying for.
I'll keep you guys updated over the next few weeks in between eating handfuls of adderall. Please provide useful feedback and bug reports. While I'm working on the new codebase, I'm going to be moderating with an iron fist. There will be zero tolerance for spamming/trolling/etc, so unless you want all your accounts deleted and to be IP banned at our routers, please try and behave for once.
Please do not bother me about being a moderator, when the time comes I'll make a news post about it.
I've taken the next few weeks off from work to have another YTMND development drive. This will include much-needed maintenance, bug fixes and a few new features. In addition to this, I've been working with Big Spaceship over the last month working on a new design, which I'll be implementing as well. If I have the remaining time, I'll be fixing up the admin panels and possibly adding some new mods.
So this is your chance to complain about anything (aside from the design) that's been bugging you recently or stuff you've been dying for.
I'll keep you guys updated over the next few weeks in between eating handfuls of adderall. Please provide useful feedback and bug reports. While I'm working on the new codebase, I'm going to be moderating with an iron fist. There will be zero tolerance for spamming/trolling/etc, so unless you want all your accounts deleted and to be IP banned at our routers, please try and behave for once.
Please do not bother me about being a moderator, when the time comes I'll make a news post about it.
Dear max,
Don't change a damn thing. Its too fucking funny to watch everyone spaz over a silly internet joke site. OMG you voted 5 on that crap site? OMG you have alt accounts? OMG, you're a troll! OMG! OMG! OMG! I'm going to throw a motherfucking TANTRUM AND DOWNVOTE!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! OMG I'm going to do that with all 50 alt accounts and PM all my friends to do the same. OMG why won't this user just quit and leave? OMG!!!!!
Without that sort of drama I'd have to do something more constructive with my life, like masturbate or get a job.
-GaryGnu
Don't change a damn thing. Its too fucking funny to watch everyone spaz over a silly internet joke site. OMG you voted 5 on that crap site? OMG you have alt accounts? OMG, you're a troll! OMG! OMG! OMG! I'm going to throw a motherfucking TANTRUM AND DOWNVOTE!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! OMG I'm going to do that with all 50 alt accounts and PM all my friends to do the same. OMG why won't this user just quit and leave? OMG!!!!!
Without that sort of drama I'd have to do something more constructive with my life, like masturbate or get a job.
-GaryGnu
check out my impression of ytmnd:
"Mom! Billy is touching me!"
-
"But mom, Suzy touched me first!"
[i]Mom ignores the childish argument[/i]
-
[i]the children continue their childish argument until mom finally comes in and tells them she bought them both new bicycles (the bikes are kinda shitty though)[/i]
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[i]the kids are distracted by their new bikes for a short while, and suggest to their mom gifts she can get them that might be better next time[/i]
"Mom, billy tried to break my bike"
etc.
etc.
"Mom! Billy is touching me!"
-
"But mom, Suzy touched me first!"
[i]Mom ignores the childish argument[/i]
-
[i]the children continue their childish argument until mom finally comes in and tells them she bought them both new bicycles (the bikes are kinda shitty though)[/i]
-
[i]the kids are distracted by their new bikes for a short while, and suggest to their mom gifts she can get them that might be better next time[/i]
"Mom, billy tried to break my bike"
etc.
etc.
Have it be known that the 40 or so comments made on here tonight stem from a site created by eightbitprodigy. It was a good site. It was well-made and it had a few harmless jokes thrown in it. It had a 4.32 rating until it was hammered by all the gr33nscr33n alts I mentioned. I don't know why he did it. It's not like he was countering anything, since eightbitprodigy, to my knowledge, has never used alts in any way. I honestly don't know how much Umfuld contributed to it, but there is a confirmed Nothingman vote within the site's comments. Here's the site where you will find blatant evidence of cheating with alts in the comments:
[site maxdestroysytmnd:site]
Going back a couple weeks, here's another comment page with massive amounts of cheating:
http://ytmnd.com/sites/953046/profile
Umfuld is simply spewing out his hate for me, calling for a ban or a deletion. And his excuse is because I'm not voting the way he thinks I should on specific sites. He can call it trolling if he wants, but there is such a thing as freedom, so he doesn't really have a case. And he complains when I bring his name up...well, you've banned him from commenting once before, so you probably know that he does this type of thing all the time too - bringing up people he hates in conversations. Me, lacrossestar83, DarthWang, wisdumcube (2008-2009 era), etc.
Want to fix YTMND? Get rid of the alts, get a new contest started, and rejuvenate your razor with your Razor Gator.
[site maxdestroysytmnd:site]
Going back a couple weeks, here's another comment page with massive amounts of cheating:
http://ytmnd.com/sites/953046/profile
Umfuld is simply spewing out his hate for me, calling for a ban or a deletion. And his excuse is because I'm not voting the way he thinks I should on specific sites. He can call it trolling if he wants, but there is such a thing as freedom, so he doesn't really have a case. And he complains when I bring his name up...well, you've banned him from commenting once before, so you probably know that he does this type of thing all the time too - bringing up people he hates in conversations. Me, lacrossestar83, DarthWang, wisdumcube (2008-2009 era), etc.
Want to fix YTMND? Get rid of the alts, get a new contest started, and rejuvenate your razor with your Razor Gator.
That's good, eric. That's a start. Let's see if we can't get a mature dialog and perhaps reach an accord. I ask you to consider my rebuttal to your points with a least a modicum of objectivity, because thus far, I feel, you've not shown the ability to do this.
Regarding your comment "there is a confirmed Nothingman vote within the site's comment" about my vote on 8-bits site. Yes. I did vote on his site. It's YTMND, where the users vote on each others sites, after all. From my vote made the following comments on that site before I had yet to comment on it myself:
[b]well you're an okay dude who was doing it for the jokes instead of the boners[/b]
[b]Hi Umfuld.[/b]
[b]well it's pretty obvious, considering Nothingman showed up and started +ing your comments. During that time you had no activity.[/b]
[b]Umfuld usually does that similar type of commenting though, putting a single word a few spaces below his retarded paragraphs to give the comment a stupidly dramatic ending [/b]
[b]and he typically never has an apostrophe in 5's. 5s. and he used the word "simpleton" earlier today. Umfuld [/b]
[b]Umfuld +'d Umfuld's alts comment using Nothingman LOLOLOLOL [/b]
Again, all the above comments were made by you on a site I voted on one time and had yet to comment on. Do you understand why I have a problem with you and consider your behavior toward me to be an obsession and ultimately, trolling?
You say I posted my previous comment because of my hate for you. Do you expect a hug?
It's also worth noting that the site you're talking about includes a joke about me. So, you're up voting what I consider a troll site, and spamming the comment page with insults about me.
But - you're good guy in all this, right?
Regarding your comment "there is a confirmed Nothingman vote within the site's comment" about my vote on 8-bits site. Yes. I did vote on his site. It's YTMND, where the users vote on each others sites, after all. From my vote made the following comments on that site before I had yet to comment on it myself:
[b]well you're an okay dude who was doing it for the jokes instead of the boners[/b]
[b]Hi Umfuld.[/b]
[b]well it's pretty obvious, considering Nothingman showed up and started +ing your comments. During that time you had no activity.[/b]
[b]Umfuld usually does that similar type of commenting though, putting a single word a few spaces below his retarded paragraphs to give the comment a stupidly dramatic ending [/b]
[b]and he typically never has an apostrophe in 5's. 5s. and he used the word "simpleton" earlier today. Umfuld [/b]
[b]Umfuld +'d Umfuld's alts comment using Nothingman LOLOLOLOL [/b]
Again, all the above comments were made by you on a site I voted on one time and had yet to comment on. Do you understand why I have a problem with you and consider your behavior toward me to be an obsession and ultimately, trolling?
You say I posted my previous comment because of my hate for you. Do you expect a hug?
It's also worth noting that the site you're talking about includes a joke about me. So, you're up voting what I consider a troll site, and spamming the comment page with insults about me.
But - you're good guy in all this, right?
Once again, freedom of voting. As for my comments, Blu-Ray's actions are so close to your behaviors. The only other time he had any activity on YTMND was last summer, on a site about you. And he coincidentally shows up right around the time you were +ing and -ing comments on this particular site. Maybe you were in the wrong place at the wrong time, but once again, the recent evidence of your activity on almost every alt you have is still mighty suspicious. That's all the more I'm saying on here, unless you have more questions. If so, I'll get to them tomorrow afternoon.
Regarding your comment: [i]Umfuld is simply spewing out his hate for me, calling for a ban or a deletion. And his excuse is because I'm not voting the way he thinks I should on specific sites. He can call it trolling if he wants, but there is such a thing as freedom, so he doesn't really have a case.[/i]
Of your last 5 sites, 4 of them are either aimed at me or mention me by name. What does that have to do with me thinking you should vote differently? I mean, it's that what trolling is? When you or jimmm or gnu or lacrossestar or 8-bit make a site about me - that's trolling, right? I'm asking. Do you think it's something other than that? Because if not, yes, I will continue to call it trolling. And you're free to do it as long as Max wants to allow it. Which was the point of my post here. He said there would be zero tolerance and I was asking why isn't there? Understand?
And you mention lacrosstar83 and yourself as people I hate. Well, I do. But I don't make sites about you. On lacrossestar83's last 5 sites I did not leave a single comment. Do you understand that? I'm leaving him alone, more or less. I'm not making troll sites about him and I'm not trolling his comment page. I did comment on a couple of your most recent sites, but not all. Which fair enough I think considering they were about me.
If you take a look at my sites you'll find no shortage of trolling comments and flames from people like you, wang, lacrossestar83, wisdumcube, garygnu and darthwang. Every single site - count on it.
Again, this is what trolling is. I vote on your sites. Perhaps in a way you don't like. But I don't troll you or your sites - every day - all day - like you and the others.
Do you understand this?
Of your last 5 sites, 4 of them are either aimed at me or mention me by name. What does that have to do with me thinking you should vote differently? I mean, it's that what trolling is? When you or jimmm or gnu or lacrossestar or 8-bit make a site about me - that's trolling, right? I'm asking. Do you think it's something other than that? Because if not, yes, I will continue to call it trolling. And you're free to do it as long as Max wants to allow it. Which was the point of my post here. He said there would be zero tolerance and I was asking why isn't there? Understand?
And you mention lacrosstar83 and yourself as people I hate. Well, I do. But I don't make sites about you. On lacrossestar83's last 5 sites I did not leave a single comment. Do you understand that? I'm leaving him alone, more or less. I'm not making troll sites about him and I'm not trolling his comment page. I did comment on a couple of your most recent sites, but not all. Which fair enough I think considering they were about me.
If you take a look at my sites you'll find no shortage of trolling comments and flames from people like you, wang, lacrossestar83, wisdumcube, garygnu and darthwang. Every single site - count on it.
Again, this is what trolling is. I vote on your sites. Perhaps in a way you don't like. But I don't troll you or your sites - every day - all day - like you and the others.
Do you understand this?
Yes, something does. Your level of obsession / harassment.
If you notice, pretty much the only thing Max does these days is occasionally delete someone's account, clearly because they were using YTMND as a means to harass someone else by making sites about them.
You've done this to my friend, thinking it was me. So has lacrossestar. The sites are still there, I'm sure. So yes, anything is justified against people like. You should be banned.
If you notice, pretty much the only thing Max does these days is occasionally delete someone's account, clearly because they were using YTMND as a means to harass someone else by making sites about them.
You've done this to my friend, thinking it was me. So has lacrossestar. The sites are still there, I'm sure. So yes, anything is justified against people like. You should be banned.