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posted by max on January 11, 2006 at 10:50:23 PM
412 sites deleted.
lohanfacial officially inducted into the hall of fame.
I'm working on a "legal" area of the site with copyright information and DMCA takedown forms you guys can use if anything like this ever comes up in the future.
I get the feeling it will.
lohanfacial officially inducted into the hall of fame.
I'm working on a "legal" area of the site with copyright information and DMCA takedown forms you guys can use if anything like this ever comes up in the future.
I get the feeling it will.
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Who's to say the ebaums rip wasn't parody? I mean, it clearly wasn't because they're too dumb to get satire, but the very notion of claiming intellectual property of them when it's assembled of pictures whose individual copyrights weren't cleared? It's retarded. Do you really think the site owner got the go-ahead from Rolling Stone to use any of the images from their shoot of Lohan? Trying to prevent the free exchange of ideas is a stupid, slippery slope.
^^inkdrinker's got a point. Check this out: a YTMND creator might be able to argue that a combination of image(s) and sound qualifies as "computer software", which would be (c) protected - and as long as the appropriate statutory or negotiated royalties were paid for the sources, he could take, oh, let's say, ebaum to court.
Actually, I'm saying it opens the door to people who have legitmate copyright claims. Like the people we steal from. If you argue that the IMAGE to lohanfacial is copyrighted material (not just the entire page, because all that was stolen was the image,) then the people hold the copyrights to all the shots stolen to make it SURELY have a case. This is why I was saying the war against ebaums is a terrible idea. I'm all for wiping out the site, but because it's stupid and boring and full of douchebags. Not over some easily-backfired copyright arguments. Why max wants to make YTMNDs explicit and implicit stances on copyright the exact opposite of one another is beyond me.
OK, I've stayed out of this long enough. I mean pictures have become a ground for a lawsuit or any litigation? The phone calls? Yes. The threats? Way over the line, but yes. But the pictures at the offices? Come on!! We should fight the good fight and not resort to anything hasty, but they want to sue over pictures? That is bad! These guys at Ebaum's should just get a life, leave the rest of us alone, and come up with some sort of coherent thought of their own. Ripping off ytmnd.com is lunancy enough, but they took it to a completely other level by launching pending litigation. This just plain sucks!!
From an ethical standpoint: YTMND is rap. It (sometimes) takes elements of another source and reworks it into something new. The ebaum site is the equivalent of Vanilla Ice taking an Eminem album, writing his name on the cover, and releasing it. From a "proper" standpoint: YTMND (and NG, SA, et al) are almost always parody. Ebaum steals those parodies and passes them off as its own. Now stop arguing about this immediately, you 'tards.
What I cannot understand from those letters from Neil Bauman is that he seems to think that Max can be held liable for any damages - physical or otherwise - that supposedly are inflicted upon him or his "personnel". This judgement itself is flawed, for no-one other than the "incriminator" can be held liable. In other words, if I went to Nei Baumans residence and waved a large banner displaying various profanities and threats to Neil, then this cannotbe held against Max. Just because Max is the "owner" of YTMND.com, which contained content apparently of a threatening behaviour, does not have any direct input from Max. For example, if I was to run onto a News Report screaming that Neil or Eric Bauman were homosexually involved, you could not say it was the TV Station's doings.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that Neil or Eric do not have a foot to stand on.
If you ever need a break from coding you should consider writing a book about the internet. It's such a new thing this. And I'm sure you have a unique understanding of, well if not the people themselves at leastheir behavior. I was thinking the other day, probably after viewing the 5th gay video game site that wasn't funny or interesting or... anything yet had a score .30 higher than I'll ever get, that I don't really come here to be entertained. May seem weird, but come on. There's maybe 2 good sites a day
So we are talking around 30 seconds a day of being entertained. I don't know. That seems weird to me that I come here so much. Truth be told I don't really go anywhere else on the net. I check scores at Yahoo sports and sometimes read the Boston Globe sports online, but honestly, this is it. No youtube. No digg. No newgrounds. Nada. Nowhere. So why am I here where everyone is half my age (and male so that sadly is not a bonus) and for the most part retarded? I guess it's just the site making.
Or rather, making a popular site. Anyway, I think I had something to say when I started writing this but I can't remember now if I did or not. I think just that thing about not going anywhere else on the net. And how it is only because once and awhile I make something that a few 1000 people enjoy, because I find most of the content here stupid and redundant. I still think you should lose Featured Users, by the way. I wasn't gonna post sites using my featured profile but i realized...
that perhaps the only way I can influence the type of content that is submitted here is to make stuff that will maybe bring people with my tastes in. Someone (on their own) submitted one of my sites to some Funny Internet Website a few weeks ago and it got a few 1000 views from there I guess. So maybe I can make a difference. It wasn't a great site though, so so far I'm only making things worse I think. F*ck. But yeah, write that book. I'd totally download it illegally from Demoniod if you did
So anyway, what was my point? Oh, right. The not really coming to YTMND to be entertained but to entertain thing. I mean even though I am often brutal to people who upload images from other websites (steal) I certainly understand why they do it. And there isn't that big a difference between that and me just uploading a funny gif from some movie or tv show, even if I made it. So yeah, that was my point. I know you are working on a new site and I just wanted to give you that to think about.
i know many people come here just to be entertained but I can't understand that. No offense! Sometimes I think about trying to help the 'random image' uploaders (if they don't just seem like dirty, smelly trolls) and teach them how to make gifs and explain how easy it is to make original sites but then I start to think well maybe it isn't easy for most people. So what do you do with the people who, like me, just come here for the love and not the luls yet lack the ability to get the love by giving luls?