After Laughter (Comes Tears)

I've always felt that YTMND should focus more on the content being produced than the users that produce the content itself. Back in 2004 a lot of the content on the front page included links to a user's profile and at some point in time this stopped. While the site's identity continues to grow, there isn't much of an outlet for users to gain an identity beyond their sites.

With suggestions and help from others I've created a beta version of a new scoring system that will privately rank users based on a number of criteria. This can then be used to give users who create great content more exposure, as well as being used as a method of highlighting content that will most likely be generally well received. Obviously the algorithm will be tweaked over the next few weeks but I hope to make it a useful part of the site. I don't want to turn this into a popularity contest, so for the time being I have no plans of publishing a list of users with associated scores.


Another upcoming change is the Hall-of-Fame, which will see a total re-haul. The Hall-of-Fame has not reflected the true spirit of YTMND and has been used as a repository of sorts. A lot of the items that don't belong will be removed and a lot that do belong will be added.

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:O!
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O_O
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gah, e-z syncan : ( also, BTapes now claiming i have more alts, which is the biggest rib cracker.
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great, now it's even more melodramatic about what butthole has an alt account and who doesnt. Let's all only pay attention to the pink folks and their soap-operatic problems instead of concentrating on how we can express ourselves "better"!!1 f*cking one one one one one one
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Guess I'm too pure to be pink.
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Only I am green. That makes me super special.
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Sphonix (HTPAT) is a featured user ahahaha
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HEY MY NAMES STILL GREEN I DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED
June 12th, 2007
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Why is there no news post number 68?
June 12th, 2007
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Because max just couldn't wait to get to 69. *Zing*
June 12th, 2007
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Bada-Bing
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The creator of Picard Song isn't a featured member, that is disgraceful.
June 12th, 2007
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Indeed. The one with the only site on Top 5 Viewed that deserves Top 5 Viewed? I'm hoping this is an anomaly of a slightly-randomized system.
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dear roq, i think i agree what you say more than most anybody else.
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Jem is truly outrageous.
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lol nice max
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lol nice Kayne
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lol nice syncan
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lol nice...nevermind im not pink :(
June 12th, 2007
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haha why pink
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Because you touch yourself at night.
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i'm gay
June 12th, 2007
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Needs to be flashing colors. Everyone loves seizuring epileptics.
June 12th, 2007
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that'd be awesome actually. Flashing between pink, navy and turkwise.
June 12th, 2007
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whats beyond pink? Ludicrous speed! I want to go to plaid!!!!
June 12th, 2007
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the people you would expect to hate this feature hate it. film at eleven following "Homeward Bound"
June 12th, 2007
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I bet if I delete all of my intentionally bad sites I will get pink
June 12th, 2007
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Kassius should definitely be pink
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"I bet if I delete all of my intentionally bad sites I will get pink" - You have to have at least 1 site for the scoring though. Haha, see what I did there?
June 12th, 2007
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Syncan made a funny
June 12th, 2007
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"Syncan made a funny" - About time, right? lols
June 12th, 2007
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I like Homeward Bound
June 13th, 2007
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I figured that 14 sites rated over 4 stars would be f*ggy enough to be a pink. I guess not, I'll have to practice sucking a golf ball through a garden hose some more apparently. :P
June 13th, 2007
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nevermind, the gayness just hit me like a gravy train. pink and proud.
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Jem is truly outrageous
June 14th, 2007
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Turning it into a "us vs them" doesn't really help. The best ytmnd could come from someone who has never made one before. This system opposes that notion.
June 12th, 2007
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:pink:
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:(
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Colors.
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Quick! Someone upvote my comment!
June 12th, 2007
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I tried my best. Colors is a good movie btw
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Does pink mean mod?
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Popular user?
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I'm not pink.
June 12th, 2007
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pink means date rape victim. im green lol. teh color of christmas and daddy after he drinks a box of wine.
June 12th, 2007
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Max, please be sure that 2004 and 2005 era ytmnd is still represented in the new Hall of Fame. It was primitive, but there's still a lot of good stuff from back then.
June 12th, 2007
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That was probibly the golden years of YTMND...
June 14th, 2007
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I swear the internet must be amish or something. its always back in my day this is how we did things
June 12th, 2007
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so pink names means good sites?
June 14th, 2007
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no and you can see that by going to the featured users section
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A ranking system? Seems likely to make people take voting even more seriously and make alts, revenge downvoting, and courtesy upvoting even more common than they already are.
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posted
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Dancing unicorns, Avril Lavigne and now pink? I am becoming a little bit startled.
June 12th, 2007
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you're not pink. im surprised. after all the date raping you've done i would have been sure that you would have won some sort of honorary sexual predator "daterape me pink" status.
June 12th, 2007
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"scoring system that will privately rank users"... also known as the list of users who "upvote and make lots of sites with cats" list.
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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korf you'll always be pink to me.
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I AM ON STRIKE UNTIL LOWCAST AND DYSKRASIA GET TURNED PURPLE!!!
June 14th, 2007
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purple peoples!
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hold on i want to try that again....
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ff00d8!!!
June 12th, 2007
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my name is probably too pink to be pink
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I am glad to see Most Voted on gone. I was sick of seeing the same sites on the front page for a week.
June 12th, 2007
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I agree up to a point, but there needs to be something besides Top Viewed for a site to go after U&C. It sucks that even the best sites only get 400, 500 votes and then disappear.
June 12th, 2007
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Uh, if they didn't disappear after a short while, you'd see everything the way it used to be where one horrible fad would dominate for over a month.
June 14th, 2007
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Now that I have a site that would be on the "Most Voted On" I wish that feature was back. I'm selfish that way.
June 12th, 2007
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Here's an idea: shut down this site and open up an ftp for you and your friends only.
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OSNAP
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whats pink mean exactly
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the fight against breast cancer
June 13th, 2007
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a color varying from light crimson to pale reddish purple
June 12th, 2007
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cool
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i have an idea delte whoever makes a site about having/getting a pink name
June 12th, 2007
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then you'd be left with just us below average chumps. :*( /wrists
June 12th, 2007
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I completely disagree with promoting certain users over others. The whole point of ytmnd was that anyone could make a site and the "market" decides its rating. Promoting certain users over others isn't the right direction, in my opinion. The fact that users need their ego fed by e-popularity is the entire point of letting the ytmnds speak for themselves.
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your just mad cuz your not pink ; p
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We're not the man anymore, dog.
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Actually, it *IS* the sites that speak for themselves, not the users. The scoring is based on site properties, not properties of the user such as his votes or comments.
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Syncan, I think some concern stems from most of the pinkies already having more exposure than the average user. (Justifiably so in most cases) Take you http://random2.ytmnd.com site. It got 61 votes. A lot of funny people here would kill for 61 votes I bet. Now, if you made that today, who knows how many views it would get. But whatev, I never looked at Most Voted This Week anyway, so it's okay by me.
June 13th, 2007
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Didn't you know? That April Fool's Joke was actually a sneak preview of YTMND's future.
June 13th, 2007
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He's right Syncan. If it's based on a users avg. rating then it is about who made it more than the site's contents. Like I said elsewhere if the list is really just people Max wants to feature, great. But if it's done by the numbers then it's a big mistake. I hate him, but gay Korf if a prime example. He openly downvotes stuff he doesn't like and his sites take a beating. "it *IS* the sites that speak for themselves" is a pretty naive thing to say.
June 13th, 2007
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You can test this. Have two users, you and a brand new account make the exact same site. I wonder which one will be rated higher, and which one accused of thievery. These days ytmnds seems to be all about the established users and groups. (vent/forums/whathaveyou)
June 13th, 2007
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Yeah, I openly downvote too and my sites take a beating because of it.
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What gets me is we have to listen to Max bitch about the quality of YTMND being so poor. Well people who at least try to vote on site content most of the time, and therefore knowly open themselves to revenge downvotes votes, do so with the overall quality of YTMND in mind. But f*ck those people I guess. (Umfuld understands he doesn't really 'have to' listen to anything Max says. It's just an expression and he'd like to continue to have said option. - Umfuld's attorny)
June 12th, 2007
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i'm ALL for the idea. sometimes i like to imagine a more user-to-user friendly YTMND, in a world with no downvoters, where we can all just get along. That's what we really need to work for. A better tomorrow for YTMND. -Dustin,lol
June 12th, 2007
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max this isn't fair ok we all need gold stars and candy treats. there shouldn't be competition in life ever
June 12th, 2007
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can we make fourest rainbow instead of pink?
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greatest idea ive heard all year. or alteast today
June 12th, 2007
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either that or #E6DFCB
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Poo brown? I've always been a fan myself
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lol @ Polend being a front featured site, that's going to backfire
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uh
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lulz
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de-vindicated...
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Dude, give inkdrinker da pink!
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this user's color should be black
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pinkdrinker
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he's pink as of this comment
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lol pink
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wait lol
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vince mcmahon is dead
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VINCE MCMAHON DID 9/11
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I'm a featured user!!!
June 13th, 2007
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Aren't you supposed to be RETIRED
June 12th, 2007
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Oh, god. Sphonix is pink. Check Hall of Fame and see it for yourself.
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lol
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moheevi and leileilol (CheapAlert) deserve a pink name more than him
June 12th, 2007
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Pleeeease fix the RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE:
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One of us! One of us!
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TARDY
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"Back in 2004 a lot of the content on the front page included links to a user's profile and at some point in time this stopped." Then bring back linking to a user's profile! I think you're treading on some big ethical problems, not just having a seperate, private ranking system, but trying to decide who counts as a user who deserves more attention than others. No matter how you slice it, it's going to be a popularity contest, especially against ytmnd regulars and outside sites that just use ytmnd.
June 12th, 2007
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Can you make a rule that forces moderators and admins to use punctuation? tht wld b sw33t lol
June 12th, 2007
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noe waiz taths teh gheys
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sorry thats not something thats going to be implemented anytime soon but maybe at some point itll be added to the todo list but until then youll just have to deal with it sorry thanks for the suggestion take care
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How the hell did Cac0 end up with pink status?
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how the hell does fourest get featured user... he still has alts dosent he?
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Just curious: What percentage of users are pink?
June 12th, 2007
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a bit less than 1/5th of 1%
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this website is up its own *ss 24-7
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MurdarMachene needs to be a featured user.
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dctownes needs to be pink. He's in the top 5 best site creators.
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MurdarMachene NEEDS to be a featured user.
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Hurrah! dctownes is cool in pink.
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BUT THAT'S GOOD, NOT ALOT OF OTHER SITES WITH MASSIVE APPEAL HAE A CRITIQUING PROCESS AS ELABORATE/ FUNCTIONAL AS YTMND
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I want to be pink :O(
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So what's to stop anyone with the pink just to fill the new section with crap sites?
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I thought that's what they were already doing. Nah, I'm just kidding. You guys are alright.
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z-z-z-zing :(
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Sh*t sites should be deleted, don't see a problem. Plus, this will help with sh*tty in-jokes. REMEMBER: JUST BECAUSE IT'S YOUR SH*TTY IN-JOKE DOESN'T MAKE IT A GOOD YTMND. /puts on flame-retardant suit.
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so i have a question... if someone had lets say, five 4 star(or higher) sites, and thirteen 3 stars, if they deleted all of the 3 stars, they could become pink? -Dustin,lol
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for the record (to anyone who noticed,lol) the above comment made by Nega WAS me, but its not an alt account or anything gay, my friend was the last one on this comp and left his account logged on and i un-knowingly posted a comment. sorry for any confusion,lol. -Dustin,lol
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The skys the limit.
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lol
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heh cool.
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and with that ytmnd was one step closer to achieving rainbow-colored glory
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now everyone wants to be mr. pink
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just what we need in ytmnd a schism
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ewww, pink.
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hmm..
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*blink*
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So assume that more detailed user profiles/avatars are out? D=
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Kind of a slap in the face to everybody not deemed "worthy" no matter how you try and sugar coat it. :(
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lol
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good stuff
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What is with this blue sh*t on the sides?
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Makin my connection as I enter the room Everybody's chillin as I set up the groove Pumpin' up the volume with this brand new beat Everybody's dancin and their dancin for me I'm your operator, you can call anytime I'll be your connection to the party line
June 12th, 2007
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hmmm
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I like this idea, rewarding users who do an overall good job. I just hope that it doesn't end up fostering elitism.
June 12th, 2007
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And what about folks like Technorat who've sold themselves on the street to fund YTMND, shouldn't they get pretty colored names too :P
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Pink?
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after pink will come gay glitter
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Here's an idea. Don't count off-site page views as actual views so WoW forums don't get to have crap in the top viewed for a ridiculous amount of time
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interesting stuff
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I get the feeling that the Hall-of-Fame will consist SOLELY of my magnificent works. Who's with me?
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F*CK! I should've run to be a mod. Maybe then I could've been pink. SH*T! *punches klumputah*
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I'M AN IDIOT!
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Glitter text please :)
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did I win?
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guess not, I'm still green
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mmmk.
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5'd
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I welcome this new feature.
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odd
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I like green better.
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wow, users downvoting due to this. good job max.
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Did they specifically say that is why they are downvoting you or is it the fact you think no one should downvote any of your sites?
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they specifically said.
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I downvote stupid pink sites. That's not to say there aren't funny pink sites, but you jackasses let this go to your head and now it seems like a lot of FeatUsers are exploiting their notoriety to perpetuate this idiocy. I hope they can come to there senses and realize they're featured because they've done some decent work and the past and learn not to squander their efforts on retarded sh*t like schisming because of max's silly color issue.
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I don't like the fact that right now Fearcondom has two sites on the up and coming and the same two sites on the featured user list. Can you fix it so it will only show up on one section?
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I should point out that I'm not picking on Fearcondom. It's just that he's the example.
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agreed. the front page should only have fearcondom and fourest sites.
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Among the sites I see are: a noisemaker, a foot doctor, another noisemaker, three iPhone fad sites, and a Bob the Builder site by Bob-the-Builder. THIS is focusing on the content?
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This comment needs more SPAAAAAAAAAAAAARTAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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I want the pink people's autographs
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Dear prairiedogeric10, ---- Get Well Soon. ----- Your pal, Money-hat
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thank you
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*Signed*
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thank you
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victz
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MAX!!!!!!!!! where did the 0 at the end of my name go????? I'm not prairiedogeric1
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people who donate/sponsor should get a color :P I'd say gold but max would probably choose purple
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seconded
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I like the HoF idea of removing some sites
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in before the inevitable pink power ranger metaphor fads. caste system ftl.
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Oh hey I remember this place.
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Got pink?
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This reminds me of that YTMND that got deleted that showed 2 smug nerds sitting on a couch drinking soda with the victorious USSR national anthem playing. One of them said, "Yeah my last site made Top Viewed with a 3.97 rating." The other said, "Schweet." Anyone remember that one?
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haha yes
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lol@pink names
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Oh snaps!! Pink!!
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Ahh so if a site gets 4.50 or better you become pink...only one site max? Why not make it an average rating.
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omg i hope my name is pink
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Btape has 54 sites above 4 stars with tonnes of votes, whereas many pinkies i see just have one famously popular site. Nomating BTape for pink.
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All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy
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I wish I was pink :( well green actually
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Max, lemme just say: Good idea; significant flaw: As opposed to having two tiers of users, the elite, and the people like me, who are ruining this site, why don't we introduce some subtle shading to the dichotomy. If you have people on a continuim from 1 (total rock) to 0 (total suck) wouldn't it be possible to shade the featured user page so that the closer you are to 1 the more likely you are to be featured? This ensures an incentive to improve as well as some exposure for all, still based on ability.
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i like the pink idea, but the "ytmnds by featured users" needs some tweaking. instead of the newest sites by the pinkies, just do random sites from 10 different pink folks
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Speaking completely selfishly, I like it how it's set up now, because now I'm at least assured a decent number of views whether my site makes Up and Coming or not. I've never cared all that much about rating, but I do care about views. Besides, considering how well the "random" Worthwhile section functions, it probably wouldn't work anyway.
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i hear ya necro. in a way it is kind of a reward for those who've consistenly made good sites, to have your latest sites be so more out there for everyone to see. it just seems like a problem to me where Fourest can make a YTMND of a straight scan of a Garfield strip with big LOL text and some "lol, internet" music in the background and command all the attention of the world because he's already up there. i do like the self-policing ways of YTMND.
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Some of my favourite YTMNDs have hardly gotten any views due to being NSFW'd to death, while some of my crappy ones have gotten hundreds of thousands of views. I like that now people will be able to see my stuff before it descends into obscurity.
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so...max, does this mean that Dr1337 is coming back?
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also, I get that blue means its a recent post, but are pink names a clever way of forcing YTMND members out of the closet?
June 12th, 2007
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I wish I could be a f*g. :/
June 12th, 2007
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At first glance, this system seems counterproductive to the opening line of Max's update. At second glance, it seems that featured sites will get either up or downvoted due to their status, and not due to their content. I guess we'll have to see how it pans out...
June 12th, 2007
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hey Max, how about colours for people who donate lots of dollars? I mean I realize green's taken but come on! all these new features and I'm still not getting any paid-user priveleges
June 12th, 2007
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that or make Murdar a featured user. seriously, do it. do it hard.
June 12th, 2007
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you just got pink'd
June 12th, 2007
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omg why??? although I have to admit, I like your caveman site
June 12th, 2007
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Can't be serious.
June 12th, 2007
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two of my crappy sites are 4 and over, but they barely have any votes so that's why I'm still....sigh....average
June 12th, 2007
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seriously, how is that fellow pink?
June 12th, 2007
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also, jealous because i have a bigger penis than you
June 13th, 2007
577th
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Unpinked FTW
June 13th, 2007
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penis still bigger
June 13th, 2007
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Only the one in your mouth
June 12th, 2007
357th
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this is maddness!!
June 12th, 2007
359th
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woot.
June 12th, 2007
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LOL, discouraging creativity FTW.
June 12th, 2007
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Seriously, I feel like a fat kid in a game of dodgeball.
June 12th, 2007
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I look at all the pink and the only thing I can think of is... NAUSEA! HEARTBURN! INDIGESTION! UPSET STOMACH! DIARRHEA! *dances*
June 12th, 2007
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June 12th, 2007
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Interesting concept. If I want to end up like those, I have to work extra hard to make sure my upcoming YTMNDs are GOOD quality.
June 12th, 2007
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390th
June 12th, 2007
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Or not.
June 12th, 2007
372nd
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very interesting
June 12th, 2007
374th
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good call max
June 12th, 2007
375th
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i dont contribute. but i laugh at some of thir sites =(
June 12th, 2007
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oh noes!
June 12th, 2007
380th
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oh no, a bunch of pinks went away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I JUST DELETED A BUNCH OF MY SH*TTY SITES FOR NOTHING
June 12th, 2007
381st
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wow
June 12th, 2007
382nd
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rofl
June 12th, 2007
383rd
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Well it was fun while it lasted...
June 12th, 2007
384th
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What's green mean?
June 12th, 2007
388th
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it means you're a retard
June 12th, 2007
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Green is the most special of all colors. Green means you're creative, funny, smart, friendly, and most importantly UNIQUE. There is only one green... YOU.
June 12th, 2007
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