Shut the f*ck up. http://iransucks.ytmnd.com

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You sir are a dumbass. You don't even give a decent rebuttal and you post ignorant sh*t.

STFU

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Pathetic.

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you're gay http://iransucks.ytmnd.com

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I'm gay? You're the one spamming me, I left my argument and moved on, you seem fixed on being stupid.

And yet, the Koran itself says it's ok.

Not at all. The Qu'ran does not support the killing of fellow people. The only times in the Qu'ran where violence is accepted is during the reconquest of mecca.

Same goes for the old testament and the Jews, they were fighting people who were trying to harm them.

It's these ignorant sh*thead terrorists who bastardize the Qu'ran for their own personal game and propaganda. You can take quotes from any holy book, put them out of context and say they preach violence.

Assalaamu alaikum. I love how even when you provide evidence, these racist and completely prejudice morons that plague the internet flaunt their ignorance.

(Koran 8:12) "Remember Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the believers, I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them." Se

Perhaps terrorism is attributed to Islam because so many Muslims engage in it. www.thereligionofpeace.com

The quote from the Qu'ran which you posted Wallbridge, is from a battle between the muslims and the meccans. The muslims were totally outnumbered, and comforted them to know Allah was on their side.

When you consider the amount of muslims in the world, there is a very few percentage of people blowing themselves up. Their just so effective, the media makes it seem that the entire middle east are terrorists.

Let me quote from Qu'ran 2:62 "Those who believe in the Qu'ran and those who follow the Jewish scriptures and the Christians any who believe in Allah (God), and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward, with their Lord; on them sha

My mistake. I did not understand that passage after all.

At any rate, here's hoping moderate Muslims and the rest of the world can work together to nail abusers of the religion soon, before more people die.

I am tired of the average american population. The best argument against democracy is having a political conversation with the average american, as far as I'm concerned.

I remember the Bible saying something about going and killing. Oh wait, nevermind. That was God telling Peter to kill animals and eat. Besides that, if Islam isn't for terrorism, explain the seven day war and the miraculous event that happened.

Oh yes, because the Bible violence has perfectly nooo killing whatsoever in it.

I could take violent passages from the Bible and pass them off as terrorism, but then I'd seem like an ignorant jackass who takes passages out of context now wouldn't I?

http://www.religioustolerance.org/islfatwa.htm

islam sucks

^Well that was a very inciteful comment, how'd you come to that conclusion?

Islam is a religion of humility and peace. Just like Christianity. And Judaism. And- well, I don't think my comment box will fit them all. You know how it goes. Still in all, nice sentiment.

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if only they followed it

Right you are, sir. Unfortunately, the masses are misguided easily by the powerful few that abuses religion.

As salaamu alaikum. Great one! Unfortunately, I doubt many will care. But, at least you tried.

so... muslims are finally going to stop mass murdering people? great

Freedom of speech

^What does that have to do with the YTMND?

Boring!! Everyone knows they want to kill the white man. They smell bad and kill women for nothing. PS There is no god and you when u die, you will not get the virgins.

derka derka, muhammad jihad!

you sir, seventy-one, are one of the few clever people left on the earth...most of the people just say sh*t without knowing if it's true or not...

Salaam, Thank you for that positive reimburstment. You are a credit to the positive Islamic "forces" against terroism.

good job

1. I guess Sura 9:5 doesnt exsist or 9:29 or 9:123 or 9:14, 8:39, 8:65, 2:193, 4:73-76, 4:84, the list goes on 2. Where in the New Testament does it say to kill people? 3. How many Christians have you seen killing people while quoting the Bible? 4. Muhammad was evil, he fought and killed people which Jesus didnt do, he had an overall total of 11 wives while Jesus had none, and had a 9 year old wife named Aisha, that shows you how sick he was.

A decent rebuttal? Obviously the majority choose to ignore that little section or there wouldn't be so many people who hate Islam. Bloody murderers and woman repressors. f*ck islam.

1. I guess Sura 9:5 doesnt exsist or 9:29 or 9:123 or 9:14, 8:39, 8:65, 2:193, 4:73-76, 4:84, the list goes on" 9:5 has to do with people who broke peace treaties with the Muslims and started attacking them first, the verse before that even emphasizes that even though one peoples may brake a treaty, don't go to war with people who still have treaties. Same deal with the other ones in the same chapter. The verses preceding them show it. I don't see what's wrong with it, "And fight them on until there is no

ore tumult or oppression upon you" Keep fighting until you've stopped being persecuted. It also goes on to say that if they stop oppresing you then you stop fighting. To 8:65, when it was clear the Quaraysh (The tribe oppressing the muslims) wouldn't hold back, and that war was soon to break out. It was sure that the Muslims would be outnumbered (and they were 3:1), so God commanded Muhammad to rouse their spirits. What's wrong with 2:193 "And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and

and there prevail justice and faith in God; but if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression." It seems pretty logical to me, if someone is oppressing you then fight them, and only them until they stop. Again, 4:73-4:76 says, "And why should ye not fight in the cause of God and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?- Men, women, and children, whose cry is: "Our Lord! Rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee

one who will help!" (4:75) That string of verses says people who fight for the oppresed will be greatly rewarded. Since when is that wrong? 2. "Where in the New Testament does it say to kill people?" There's tons in the New Testament http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/nt.html But, probably, like the Quran, those verses are taken way out of context. 3. "How many Christians have you seen killing people while quoting the Bible?" Quite a bit, the Freedomites, the KKK, God's Army, Eric Rudolph th

4. "Muhammad was evil, he fought and killed people which Jesus didnt do, he had an overall total of 11 wives while Jesus had none, and had a 9 year old wife named Aisha, that shows you how sick he was." Well, lets go part by part, first the claim that Muhammad killed people but Jesus didn't, so Muhammad must be evil. Muhammad's message wasn't out by the time the people in charge came to flog him and torture him and his followers. He fled to Medina, where he stood up for himself against the people tortur

his followers. Since when does standing up for people considered evil? The second claim that Muhammad was evil because he had 11 wives, while Jesus had none. Muhammad and Jesus lived in different societies, in different cultures and in different times, many marriages in Muhammad's times were considered normal for political purposes. If you look at the list of wives, most of them were political marriages, including Aisha (who could have been anywhere from 9-14). She was the daughter of Muhammad's greatest

lly and friend, either as a sign of that friendship and/or for the protection of his daughter, they were married. The fact that it was a political marriage is shown by the fact that she was still a virgin after his death.

angryturtle wrote: A decent rebuttal? Obviously the majority choose to ignore that little section or there wouldn't be so many people who hate Islam. Bloody murderers and woman repressors. f*ck islam. lets say..two thousand muslims did terrorism....100 million didn't..yes that obviously is the majority of all muslims...please...go f*ck a turtle...because you really..REALLY don't know what the f*ck you are talking about.

Assalaamu Alaikum warrahmatullahi wabarakatuh. Insha Allah this will reach at least a few people. May you be greatly rewarded, brother.

finnaly, a ytmnd that proves that the islamic religion isnt for terrorism. god, just cause you see it on tv doesnt make it so people, why dont you read a little more into the subject people, this guy did

It's official, Muslims can't read.

I'm christian but have many muslim friends, I used to be an idiot back than as well, now I realize my past transgressions. Sorry.

we all know the majority of muslims are good people.. yet when the extremists continue to rage "holy wars" and kill in the name of allah.. just doesnt help em out much

to ripper354: Yeah, but The muslims that do not do terrorism don't like The extremists either, but they can't do anything about it, cuz the terrorists are hard to catch or too strong.

an example: In Irak, Saddam used to torture his people to stay in charge. The people of Irak didn't want Saddam as their leader, but They couldn't do anything about it...

CHECK THIS OUT: http://library.flawlesslogic.com/verses.htm

lol at person above using a racist website... is that where you get your facts on religions? XD

Ill have you know that I logged in to five this. As an American, and especially as a Republican, I am glad someone is finally putting something out that makes sense. Terrorists are not religous zealots. They just ingested lead as a child.

^lol@lead, and thank you for going through the trouble of logging in just to vote on this.

lol, the moment stupid arabs stop blamming christians for the crusades over almost a thousand years after, we will stop blamming islam for terrorism, starting 100years after they stop f*cking complaining about everything, seriously these people can do nothing wrong, it is always America and Isreal's fault that they live in poverty because they are governed by a theocracy, and the moment we go in and try to change that, they START COMPLAINING MORE, these f*cking people just cant shut up

Ah, finally an Islam-related site that isn't racist. I have an Islamic friend, who's pretty weird... (I'm not getting into that) These people that voted 1 are prejudiced, mass-downvoters, or just don't know any better about these things.

Too many people assume that the small minority of fundamental muslims who are "violent woman repressors" are the majority and the voice of every muslim, ever. Woman repressors? What about all the sh*t in the Bible talking about how a woman's place is below that of a man's? Hypocritical dumbsh*ts. And I swear, if I see one more person call them a-rabs...

' lets say..two thousand muslims did terrorism....100 million didn't..yes that obviously is the majority of all muslims...please...go f*ck a turtle.' Your the one whos clueless, it wouldn't be a problem if only a very small minority of islam was violent. Islam is a cancer of this world, one that spreads into an area, infests it, and changes law/policy around their religion. France is a prime example of what happens when your too 'tollerant'. So you can take that turtle and shove it up mohammed's ass.

I'm agnostic, not christian. However its laughable you'd compare the two, down there they'll stone a woman if shes raped (thats right, not the rapist who raped her, its *her* fault she was raped). They make all women cover their bodies (and kill them if they don't), men have the right to kill women in their family if they 'shame' them. F*ck islam and f*ck you ignorant bastards who will continue to bend over for it in the name of 'tollerance'.

^You know, you have an uncanny spelling of the word "tollerance"...Ah yes, most anti-Islamic websites spell it that way. Coincedence? Or do you not know enough about the meaning of the word to be able to spell it? Seriously, your argument is flawed. At least these other guys brought some shred of an argument to back up their statements. Just because you say a women must be killed in Islam if she doesn't cover herself doesn't make it true.

Thanks anyone who downvotes this site is a stupid f*cking bigot

thats croosing the fckin line u fck!!!!!

Truth'd +5

show me in the koran where it says "dont kill others" (appling to everyone) and ill show u a green dog

Derka Derka Mohammed Jihad

Complete load of crap btw, there are many parts of the koran that command the death of unbelievers. I could care less what any of you say, your actions speak for you. Stop beating women, stop trying to impose islamic law on the world, stop destroying buddhist monuments, stop beheading and killing innocent people, FFS stop blowing yourselves up on innocent children, and maybe people would take you more seriously. GD Terrorists.

^Why are you talking to me like I'm a terrorist? Did you even look at the YTMND? It was saying that terrorists AREN'T MUSLIM. Ergo, you do not include all Muslims into one generalization.

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To Sgt Simpson, not only what was in the YTMND, but Sura 17:33 "And do not kill anyone".

So if killing is forbidden in Islam, why did Mohammed personally order the killings of thousands of people? You seem completely oblivious to the Islamic concept of abrogation.

Naskh has nothing to do with this. And, you can say that Muhammad ordered the killings of thousands of people, but unless you cite an incident then there's no debate. I could just as easily say that you personally ordered the killings of thousands of people, and that statement would have as much validity as yours.

Are you serious? Surely you would not say the same if I made the same claim of say, Stalin. But since you insist, there were the men taken prisoner at Badr (including one who cried out for his children at the point of execution), a mother of five (stabbed to death for questioning Mohammed’s claim to be a prophet), dozens of Jewish citizens, including poets and merchants who were accused of mocking Islam, numerous adulterers, at least one slave girl, 800 Qurayza men and boys taken captive and beheaded

on Mohammed’s order, a Qurayza woman made delirious by the execution of her family, and an unfortunate individual who was tortured to death so that the prophet of Islam could discover his hidden treasure and then “marry” his freshly-widowed wife. Oh, and an innumerable number killed in the war between the Muslims and Meccans started by Mohammed after he raided a caravan on "Allah"'s orders.

Sorry for the delayed response, I haven't been checking back to this site for a looong time. To adress your points: 1.) No, I would not say the same about Stalin because there is actual evidence that proves what he did. None of the points you made in that statement were backed up by evidence. Now to adress your other points, it appears you copied and pasted them because I've seen that exact same argument from most Anti-Islam people, but I'll still address them:

*None of the points you made in the statement were specific enough to argue. Now, I'll adress the actual points you made (or whoever made them first):

The person you mentioned who was executed as he was crying out for his children was one of two men murdered by angry soldiers (not executed on the orders of Muhammad) for dumping sheep excrement on Muhammad. You have to understand that the soldiers on the Muslim side were men who were persecuted, harrased, driven out of their homes, and murdered by the Meccans and the Quaraysh for what they believed in. I'm not excusing the actions, but they are understandable.

As for the mother of five, are we talking about the same woman who conspired to kill Muhammad? As for the other vague descriptions, it would help to know who specifically you are talking about. With regards to "dozens of Jewish citizens, including poets and merchants who were accused of mocking Islam, numerous adulterers, at least one slave girl" Who exactly are you reffering to? Its hard to argue against your vague statements.

As for the 800 Quarayza executed (something disputed by historians), whenever Muhammad judged a case regarding Jews, he referred to the Torah for punishment, and as treason was their crime, supposedly execution was their punishment as laid out in the Torah. And to say that Muhammad started the war with the Meccans is ludicrous. As I'm sure you know, and as I said before, the Muslims were persecuted to a horrendous degree in Mecca, and the Meccans sought to kill them wherever they fled.

Or did you also forget that the Quraysh deliberatley broke the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah, which constituted an act of war?