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ok i have an idea. i am illiterate. someone take these stupid ideas of mine and make a good ytmnd out of them. i was born autistic but managed to survive. I discovered mathematics in third grade and it save dmy life. That is why i founded MABSFG. (Math Against Bible Studies F*ck God) to support my habit for YTMNDs. I need the help of my fellow crew. Nude football stars, autism, space, trucks, the desert....the possibilities are endless team. Keep on rockin -Lamm-

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I love the implication that the voyager program had any sort of connection to atheism. Obviously you can't create space probes if you are "tied down by such a small world view," because God condemns space or probes or something.

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I'm tired of religious ytmnds.....I mean, we have a purpose within our confines and I believe in life on other planets and they also have a purpose on their planet. It's totally true that we are so small, but really, what does it have to do with the existance of God? I mean, if it's like trying to say that we're limited and so how can we believe in something that created something basically endless, why? Is that saying that we can't explore the vast reaches of space. No, but in all honest, it becomes we...

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"He streches the North out over empty space, He hangs the Earth on nothing."_________ Job 26:7 _______It is also said in the Bible that "To seek the mysteries of God's creation is the honor of kings."_____ True Christianity is dedicated to understanding the fundamental truths of God's universe and find out the mysteries of all the Earth and beyond. You're hampered by a typical atheist view we expect from everyone. You have no understanding to the true faith and subject us stereotyping.

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"He's not spamming anything. You choose to watch them. Second of all the size of our planet in comparison to space doesn't prove anything except that God created a large universe and it only shows his power. So why don't you stop spamming your rebuttals and just let him post. This doesn't prove anything about God's existance. God isn't going to be found in a picture. God isn't bound to our physical world. Using pictures from space shows nothing. At all." QFTW

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"fart of a retarded space whale" (from your comment on Whetstone's God proof site) earns you 4598340598324058 stars.

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I had already made that deduction by myself. Except that I was smart enough not to think that what created the universe is undoubtedly sentient. Could as well have been the fart of a retarded space whale for all that matters. Additionnally, I'd like to point out that entropy has been proven time and time again to be bullsh*t. Anyway, I'll make a YTMND soon to make people understand why it's impossible to prove God exists. And by soon, I mean when I very well feel like it. Until then, stop trying.

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The fact that our planet is so full of life AND that it's the only one in the known universe with that trait only SUPPORTS my faith in an almighty God. It makes no sense that one tiny dustspeck in the solar system should be protectecd against the endless vacuum of space. Either we're insanely luck, or the Creator of the universe allowed this one tiny part of it to contain all known forms of life, including the human race. Science at every turn proves the reality of God.

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The point I would make regarding the vastness of space is that it by no means justifies a belief in god and it by no means justifies a belief that there is no god. It exists. It is vast. We can't really tell you at this point when it came about or if it has always been or if it comes and goes cyclically (which is to say that it always has been), but it is. Also, I see no reason to believe in the Humanist "affirmation of human dignity" but this doesn't logically lead to social darwinism, either.

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oh and "Sorry, the *we are so small and insignificant therefore there is no God* theory is not a good one and has nothing in it save just that. It is the way you see it, I see it as *Gee, all that space and God focuses on US? Damn we must be increbibly important beings*." This has absolutely nothing to do with what he is saying.

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He's not spamming anything. You choose to watch them. Second of all the size of our planet in comparison to space doesn't prove anything except that God created a large universe and it only shows his power. So why don't you stop spamming your rebuttals and just let him post. This doesn't prove anything about God's existance. God isn't going to be found in a picture. God isn't bound to our physical world. Using pictures from space shows nothing. At all.

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Sorry, the *we are so small and insignificant therefore there is no God* theory is not a good one and has nothing in it save just that. It is the way you see it, I see it as *Gee, all that space and God focuses on US? Damn we must be increbibly important beings*.

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For starters, here's a big fat 1 for preaching on YTMND again. Also, if you want to hinge the entirety of God's existence on the idea that all things must have a cause, then you're stuck with the infinite paradox "What created God?" Also, the idea that the cause of the universe must be completely independent of space and time is falsely assumed, because it ignores interaction with multiverses, that the matter we have has come due to a fluctuation in quantum state. Obviously, this thing is full of holes.

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You know very little about quantum mechanics or any of the recent theories of the univere's mechanics. 1. Space and time aren't two different things 2. the beginning of time was a singularity- the laws of math and science do not apply to it. Black holes are the same way. ergo, you could also say that the universe was just a relly big black hole that exploded. 3. the uncertainty prinicple states in a roundabout way that god can't know everything. look it up. 4. I hated the scientology site too.

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Where is your God now! Theoretically if you can bend space then all those distances become irrelevant, go Hyperdrive lol.

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Thanks for not including religion into this YTMND. Also this YTMND proves the nonexistance of God. Why the hell would he waste so much space? XD

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"Yes more or less, I only had enough space in the YTMND to show that God exists- without going really indepth into WHICH God exists and what exactly >>>His

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5 for god, 2001 Space Odyssey [sic?], and astronauts

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btw I don't even consider this to have anything to do with religion (either bashing it or not), it's just funny because of the audio since it's what anyone would be thinking if they ran into God in space :P

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Interesting, but at some point you talk about space time and [sic]manner. Go correct pl0x. Also @Ton: No, because faith has no foundations. In a way science has no foundation seeing as someone started by saying something like 1+1=2, but there is more science to prove that theory as there is anything proving the existence of a god. Basically that's cool, seeing as there needn't be any arguments for faith, but don't go loading that crap on others. I support this YTMND more that Whetstone's. I like the discussion though.

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So, why (not who) is god? in other words, what is his purpose? Does he HAVE a purpose? Next question: Does god exist in the frame of time, space and matter? Because if he doesn't, how do we 'get to him' (heaven)? Rephrase: Could you think of valid arguments for the (non)existence of a heaven or something alike? I shall refrain from voting until these questions are answered in some way. Thanks in advance for looking.

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Interesting YTMND, and it has brought a lot of dirt in motion. I have a couple of questions and comments and I'll try to keep them as 'grown-up' as possible, since I've been known to get childish over said arguments, if it happens, I apologise. First of all, I'd like to ask if you know how much energy the universe contains and if you know the actual formulae for thermodynamics in space and time. I take it these formulae are on the site you referenced, I didn't take the time to look there yet, I might do it. The point of the question is how can you be so sure, if the universe was infinite, it should've ended before now? You simply cannot say this on the data we currently have. Also, if god didn't come into being he doesn't have a cause, right? (continues)

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Simple answer: God has always been. It is hard for a person to fathom something that has no beginning. The fact is, God created the dimension of time, therefore having existed before time, aka, never having an origin. God is. See you space cowboy.

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Just throwing it out there, General Relativity shows that Space and Time are intertwined to the point where they can be called the same entity (hence the usage of the word Spacetime). Of course it is altogether possible that God was the catalyst for the Big Bang, but as we understand physics today, it is impossible to really predict what happened at the big bang. At a level where matter is so infinitely dense as in the case of the beginning of the universe, the laws of General Relativity break down. Until a Unified theory of Quantum Gravity is created and generally verified, we wont know for sure what the universe began as. On a more related note, theres no use in asking what came before the universe anyway. Its like asking whats north of the north pole.

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Well it makes complete sense to me. I've had a similar theory, scientifically there is a God. The force that created the universe, being space, time, and matter. And like he said, the force that created those is not bound by what it created. So in a sense there is a God, a creator of the universe. But if so, who is to say that the force that created this is A) sentient or B) has a vast kindom with angles known as heaven (or whatever other religions use to define a god and his kindom). So in a sense, there is a God, but not in the same sense as religion uses to define a deity. So basically God, in theory, exists, but is not an all knowing, sentient, loving, caring being. At least it is unlikey so which boils down to a new wrapper for the same endlessarguement. The force is there, but is it God? You can say yes, it is god. Or just as easily you can say no, it is not god but rather, something new. A new scientific force yet to be defined.

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Listen to the other guy, who used actual logic to gun down your points. in every rebuttle he made you replied with silly things like "twisting my language make everything more dificult to comprehend." no, twisting your language doenst do that. it makes you look like a dumb sh*t because ytou dont know how to reply to it.. another thing you dont understand is that matter and space dont cause time, energy does, which in your arguement i believe you purposely left out. The cause of energy you are unable to explain. so there off, "God" you are unable to explain. the other guy owned you.

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LOL DjDTM, pure gold. Peterguy, your ytmnd has so many flaws its hard to start listing them. If you had took grade 8 science you would have known about atoms, particles, and life on earth being created. Everything started from a single, singularity. Not this magical invisible god creature (THAT HASN'T EVEN BEEN PROVED OR EVER SEEN, TO DATE.) SO, we have two choices here: 1)everything was created by some magical space wizard that just HAPPENED TO BE ALIVE BEFORE ANYTHING WAS CREATED (who came up with that idea?) OR 2)A singularity started the generation of the universe (more plausable idea) and a series of realistic events lead up to new creations and earth. Beliving in god is like beliving in scientology, both are fake scams to brainwash lesser individuals

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to all those who say whetstone fails because he claims something exists outside causality even though he uses causality as a reason: he merely says everything has a cause. each event and each thing in the universe was caused by something else... that means that SOMETHING had to simply be and not be caused by something else, and since we can prove the universe began.. which includes matter, space, and time.. something had to exist before that.. and something before that and so on until you finally get to something that always just was. look up aquinas's first 2 logical proofs of god's existance, the prime mover and the first cause argument

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Also "how can something exists outside time space and matter yet still effect time space and matter?" Is a good point. We cannot describe this 'God' beyond immaterial. If we cannot define this entity at all, appearance or ability, then it is impossible to label it and furthermore, pointless to argue, especially if you want to attach it to a religion.

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see anything except photons and our brain is bound to a certain electrochemical speed that dictates our passage through time as we know it. We are not aware of our own beginning or ending, much less the universes. Everything is relative. Space is relative to our size, time is relative to our speed through space, and existence is anything we define it as. Trying to prove the universe began through a philosophy that created science is not proof of creation. Seeing creation itself is the only proof of creation. Creation in itself is irrelevant to science because it cannot be proved or disproved and so is God. Therefore the two do not belong in the realm of fact and should be relegated to personal beliefs. It is non sequitor to say otherwise.