Golden Brown

hey folks,

I bet you've been wondering what I've been up to lately. I know I've been keeping pretty quiet, but I promise I've been extraordinarily busy. I've been trying to keep on top of people exploiting the system, I even added batch delete to the admin site. In the last week I deleted over 600 accounts, so you probably saw a lot of scores normalize.

The catch is that I haven't really been working on YTMND all that much. I've been working on a new website. Well, two actually. As a lot of you know, I never made YTMND expecting people to actually use it, beyond say 10-20 people. This time around, instead of taking six days to make an entire site and then spend the rest of my life fixing the various exploitable odds and ends and restructuring how everything works to make it scale, I'm actually designing as much as I can up front.

The first site is sort of generic, and probably won't be open to the public in any form that you'd want to use it. It's a scalable media store for websites like YTMND, or anything that requires hosting and organization of lots of small files. I hope to move YTMND over to use it once it's finished. For anyone interested in the technical aspects, it's a lot like MogileFS, Amazon's S3, and GoogleFS. It's a fairly large challenge on many levels.

Warning, this is where I get wordy:

The second site I'm waiting to announce until it's more developed. To get your brain churning, I've long held that most sites on the internet are more or less the same. Flickr, Youtube, YTMND, 4chan, Forums, "Blogs", etc. It's all the same media, but with different feature sets and organizations. Inherently, large communities form around these things which are usually obvious. Smaller sub-communities form as well, but are usually unnoticed or unknown.

Sites such as facebook aim to turn communities of people who know each other in person into an information sharing network. On the internet communities don't work like that, there are always people coming and going, alumni and "noobs". There will always be a larger number of people lurking than there will be participating. In most cases when you open up a system that allows anyone to participate, you end up getting more garbage and as a community gets larger, that becomes painfully more apparent.

I've always avoided "social-networking" as I feel like most of it's bullshit marketing drivel and when it comes down to it, the sites provide more useless garbage (SEND THIS FROG GIFT TO YOUR FRIEND FOR $1!!!) than they do actual usefulness. I don't care if you are posting this twitter(tm) message from your toilet. I don't want to know what you are listening to right this second. I don't want to read your profile. I don't want to browse your self-censored "wall". I want to sink my teeth into; something worth looking at.

This is why I'm not rich. I don't see the point of adding a facebook or myspace plugin even though it would bring millions of new people to YTMND, the kind of people that look at and click ads, as well as the kind that ruin communities.

I think YTMND ended up as an extension of how I feel in that aspect. YTMND users are what they make. Your profile page shows your sites, your comments, etc. It isn't the description of you that you wrote yourself, your avatar, your birth sign or your religious views, because I don't care about any of those things. If you want to show people who or what you are, do it using what's available.

This has caused a lot of people to create alts, and in most cases (where people aren't using them to upvote themselves) it's to separate styles and remove the associations with their main account. I find this sort of amazing, because outside of having knowledge through the admin system, I'd never match a lot of the people to their alts. It's almost like two completely different people. So how do you allow people to participate without the desire to split into multiple personalities? Or the burning need to create tons of accounts in order to prop their original account up to be seen by more people?

I feel like IRC is a perfect example of how real internet communities work. You have a plethora of people involved in multiple sub-communities at once, most of which have nothing to do with the name of their communities (or channels in this case) but grew into different groups of people that share the same space. How these communities start is less important than the fact that at a certain point, most smaller internet communities don't have an underlying theme beyond the people that make up the community itself.

So to summarize, I'm taking everything I've learned about the internet and more importantly managing (hah!) a large internet community and using it to create a new site where I'm going to avoid large communities like the plague. I want to create a site for people who want to see the internet as it really is and has been for the last decade: raw and uncut.

Do you remember when Intel was concerned with making better processors, not "mashups", back before a stupid phone caused an avalanche of contemptible, biased hype, like when paying 1.6 billion dollars for a business that will almost assuredly cost more to host than it will ever make was still a ludicrous idea, back when introverts ruled the internet?

Me too. This is who I want to cater to, this is who I've catered to on YTMND: myself.

So what does this mean for YTMND? Not much, yet. I'm still popping back and forth, but ultimately I think it means I'm going to give a lot more control over the site to mods, which I think is a good thing (assuming I pick good mods). Anyway, there will probably be some downtime this weekend as I will be in Chicago moving servers around, I may even pop in on lulzcon if I don't think it will cause me physical harm. Stay tuned for more updates semi-soon.

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September 27th, 2007
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Lulz for Lulzcon comment. Would give you a five for the heading If I could.
September 27th, 2007
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Well said, max. I hope YTMND never becomes another Myspace or Facebook.
September 27th, 2007
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Unless the new site is the return of YTMNSFW I really don't care.
September 28th, 2007
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Which is well overdue, I agree. As one last favor to ytmnd, at least bring back the ytmnsfw page before you go.
September 27th, 2007
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Hey I'm racing in Chicago this weekend. Good times.
September 27th, 2007
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GORDON BROWN
September 27th, 2007
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Didn't read.
September 27th, 2007
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YTMND 2.0 coming to a series of tubes near you!
September 27th, 2007
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Damn Max, that was a really well thought-out article.
September 27th, 2007
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amazing post, I didn't think I read it all but as always... you made it so interesting haha
September 27th, 2007
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September 27th, 2007
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cool :)
September 27th, 2007
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Wow, http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net is actually worth reading!
September 27th, 2007
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I'm still in the habit of typing in http://maddox.xmission.com whenever I want to go there.
September 27th, 2007
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I think Maddox is unofficially retired but he is still a badass
September 27th, 2007
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If you're this busy, should you get an expereinced and trusted member to take over while you're gone?
September 27th, 2007
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Man, Max just put my whole entire opinion of the network into one huge wall of text! And thats one helluva awesome wall!
September 27th, 2007
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"I find this sort of amazing, because outside of having knowledge through the admin system, I'd never match a lot of the people to their alts. It's almost like two completely different people." In a few cases, we really are two different people. My roommate and I both have accounts on this site. We have the same IP, so we probably look like alts. He's more of a lurker though. Then again, I haven't even done that much lately. IRC goes best with an Uno bot script.
September 27th, 2007
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BRING BACK YSPACE!
September 27th, 2007
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I like how the most important, relevant part of my name to this news is cut off from view
September 27th, 2007
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Best of luck, max. I agree with your views. I may end up doing my Ph.D. on IRC communities just to get some more academic visibility into it. We can't let these marketers take over the definition of "internet community" the way they've taken over "family values" and are trying to take over "social networking." Let me know if you need a hand technically, or if you want to "be published" in a peer-reviewed journal, it'd be my privilege to help in any way you need. You can find me on EFNet anytime.
September 30th, 2007
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The papers are coming; some studies are in progress now.
September 27th, 2007
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tl;dr
September 27th, 2007
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lol pretense
September 27th, 2007
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YTMND has turned into a downward spiral ever since the massive sh*tstorm of gamerf*gs moved in. Moderatorship has not been abused (thank christ), because the mods are vets of YTMND, and i know that they can see this change as well.
September 27th, 2007
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September 27th, 2007
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i'm tired of using technology...
September 27th, 2007
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lol quick, house party before Max gets back.
September 28th, 2007
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Sounds interesting.
September 28th, 2007
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Legislators are using alts to vote on laws, lawl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG6X-xtVask
September 28th, 2007
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what in the hell happened to this place....
September 28th, 2007
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also Rugby World Cup. (Spingboks ftw)
September 28th, 2007
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i cant believe i messed up the name of the team im rooting for.
September 28th, 2007
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You watched the game too?
September 28th, 2007
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hell yeah. RSA beat the sh*t outa England and USA is gonna get raped on sunday
September 29th, 2007
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I wonder what would happen is Sylvester, PCF and Kayne each released a new site in one day.
September 28th, 2007
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Social networking communities, as they're usually called, are a lot like society. People form groups, someone in one group does something that pisses off another group, that group hates the group associated with that person, wars of words start, and sometimes, which is too often enough, people get hurt. Psychologically for the vast majority of the time that is.
September 28th, 2007
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You'll probably never see this Max, but I just want to say that as somebody who has watched and studied the internet for many years now, I can really appreciate what you're saying--and I agree. I've been a part of dozens, maybe hundreds of communities over the years, and smaller communities are definitely the way to go. When I make a YTMND, I usually set it up on my own server as well, and post it on a few smaller forums that I'm a part of. The difference between the two experiences is...very significant?
September 28th, 2007
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Don't really know where I was going with that at all. I guess I just wanted to say that I understand.
September 28th, 2007
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This marks the beginning of the end for ytmnd. As locusts move from one harvest to the next, we move from site to site, project to project. If the site is left untended, it will undoubtedly rot. YTMND will inevitably die anyway, but how it dies is the real trick. Will it just die off, a forgotten memory? Or will it die to be reborn, much like a phoenix, in a brighter, more vibrant plumage? I don't know about this new site max, but I think you've got a good bag of marbles already with YTMND. Good luck.
September 29th, 2007
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I got a shingle and i'll guard it with my life, i'm just keeping off the flies yeah i drank from the tap shoulda left it in the pipes this is my cause and my excuse i'll take the loss but i'll get what i got due. yeah i ain't burnt just golden brown.
September 29th, 2007
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It would be really nice to be able to read people's full name in the comment pages again.
October 8th, 2007
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Yes it would. I miss the "0" at the end of my name.
September 29th, 2007
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Your logic is flawed and your ideals are useless. You are only looking at such a small portion of websites you mentioned you make yourself look stupid. For instance, I bet youtube makes much less than it costs to host (like you said) but Google didn't buy it as a cash cow, them bought it to have a huge chunk of the internet video market, think of it as an investment. I could get into more about how you wont change anything because you love having something to bitch about, but I ran out of characters.
September 29th, 2007
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Couldn't help noticing a lot of the comments were almost goodbye notes! I don't think Max has completely deserted ytmnd and its community just yet.. Well here's hoping at least! Interesting ideas here by the way
September 29th, 2007
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Wow, that was. Actually quite interesting. I wish you'd share more insight upon your views of emergent internet-based groups and the connections from them more frequently, max. Or at least share links to whatever people you think discuss it in greater detail.
September 29th, 2007
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max power
September 29th, 2007
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I'm looking forward to seeing this new site.
September 29th, 2007
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2006-10-08 21:08:25 504th State-of-mind please delete this guy already: http://ytmnd.com/users/n4rvst/comments
October 1st, 2007
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2006-10-08 21:15:53 505th shallow To be honest, I can't believe the downvoter/upvoter problem hasn't been addressed already.
September 30th, 2007
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I live to see you eat that contract, but I hope you leave enough room for my fist because I'm going to ram it into your stomach and break your god-damn spine!
September 30th, 2007
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I'm deleting my account cause I hate seeing it when I google my username for my e-mail address, and I'm applying to med school. That sucks, cause I was really looking forward to the possibility of being a mod. Look for me under SKG or something... else.
September 30th, 2007
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That's smee in the corner.
October 2nd, 2007
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Just curious, did you watch the season opener of "Boston Legal"?
September 30th, 2007
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The internet could always use a bit more fascist sites.
October 1st, 2007
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Do something about your NSFW-happy mods.
October 1st, 2007
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you are jewish, you did 9/11, I love you max goldberg
October 1st, 2007
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you lost me at "hey folks". also you all like sex with men if you dont + this comment.
October 1st, 2007
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You should call one of your new sites (or programs they're based upon) "Yiddish Cup." Good luck with these endeavors -- also, c*cks.
October 1st, 2007
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Web 3.11 for Workgroups
October 2nd, 2007
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Still waiting on more account options. I'd settle for just a username changing option.
October 2nd, 2007
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lol i'd love that, considering i'm actually "Pettitman" and that username is on the deletion queue as of a few days ago and I just deleted all my sites because I don't want to use that username anymore.
October 3rd, 2007
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Yeah, I was almost at that level. I really like my creations, so I'll probably just switch to my alt, featuring my desired username and continue from there. It doesn't matter who knows the story of my old account and new one, it's the YTMNDs people care about. The ability to delete our own comments as simply as with votes/favourites would be good too...
October 3rd, 2007
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At the moment the only way to change your name is to have a site in the Hall of Fame and then ask max if you can be a moderator. Though I think you can no longer be in control of your account afterwards...
October 3rd, 2007
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Well yes, Hall of Fame member CheapAlert became leileilol, but I thought that was because she merely asked. I had originally asked syncan for the same privilege back in June. He offered to do it at some point, asking me what username I wanted. However, it was around that time he was becoming too tired of YTMND for various reasons, so he didn't bother. But why the loss of account control if I had my username changed in such a way?
October 3rd, 2007
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I like the idea that comments CAN'T be individually deleted.
October 5th, 2007
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I was thinking mainly comments you make on your own sites, i.e. my old responses to old deleted accounts or simple errors. But I see what you mean. Users deleting themselves from arguments whenever they screw up and make an arse of themselves and such...
October 2nd, 2007
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uhhh there are only 6 sites on sponsored, lolol
October 2nd, 2007
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THIS SITE SOUNDS AWESOME AND RADICAL TO THE MAX I SUPPORT IT
October 3rd, 2007
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Yeah, only a hardcore waste of life would bother blogging, IMHO.
October 3rd, 2007
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I been here since 2005, the good old hurricane katrina sites. It's changed a lot and was way easier to control probably. I still miss ytmnsfw.com. If you want to retain whatever is left cool you got to keep large droves of people coming here I suppose. Max knows best.
October 4th, 2007
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This new site should be called ptkfgs... ITS BULLETPROOF
October 4th, 2007
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"What is a city but its people?" Are you trying to built a Rapture, Andrew Ryan?
October 4th, 2007
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Awesome, another gimmick downvoter returns. http://www.ytmnd.com/users/taimaixiu/
October 4th, 2007
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Does this mean you're going to Re-vamp DustinDiamond.com? Please?
October 5th, 2007
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we're talking about pizza
October 6th, 2007
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a raw and uncut internet would still be full of useless garbage..
October 6th, 2007
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posting on the internet
October 6th, 2007
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See ya
October 7th, 2007
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later, PCF
October 7th, 2007
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:[
October 7th, 2007
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We should play Halo 3 sometime.
October 7th, 2007
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....and we did....and I got owned....because I suck at mulitplayer.
October 7th, 2007
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Ribbit Ribbit! PaStE THiS FrOG NOISE 5 TIMES AND uR YTmND WILL INST4ntLY G3t A 5-* RaTiNG!!1!
October 7th, 2007
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walrus you ass
October 8th, 2007
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Mmm...pizza restauraunt there sells this one pizza...where it's stuffed with cheese and very thick.. Ohhh maaan i want one of those right about now.
October 8th, 2007
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Max is always the man now, dog.
October 8th, 2007
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Max, you really need to I dunno, abandon this whole enterprise- there is no way you'll ever make a decent living off of your sites, because you feel obliged to provide the best content you can tword your community- look at Ebaums, for example. They make 10x the money, because the profit hungry sh*tbags. I mean, you get nothing out of the deal but a warm feeling that your one of the only non-profit hungry people n this cesspool that is the internet. Eh, oh well....
October 9th, 2007
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~ I dub this the Greybrown wall. I claim it for Spain! ~ nobody expects the spanish inquisition!
October 9th, 2007
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mazel tov for the new sites, btw. :) best of luck.
October 9th, 2007
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Have you ever been invited to a party by someone you don't know? Yeah, 'free drinks' you may be thinking. Here it says 'bring money' - about as worthless as a MySpace invitation then. Stupid kids... can't provide their own drinks... what kind of party is that? A crap one.
October 10th, 2007
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I like how in that t-shirt ad banner the girl on the left is wearing a shirt that says "Pants."
October 10th, 2007
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I thought you said "pooping back and forth"
October 11th, 2007
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This is the most boring YTMND I've ever seen. Downvote this creep!
October 11th, 2007
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TRAB PU KCIP
October 11th, 2007
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Pickabar? What the the hell is pickabar
October 12th, 2007
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http://ytmnd.com/users/jn08/ has the following alts (lol why do i care)
October 12th, 2007
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http://ytmnd.com/users/HessFonzerelli http://ytmnd.com/users/KeitelFonzerelli http://ytmnd.com/users/GoringFonzerelli http://ytmnd.com/users/HitlerFonzerelli http://ytmnd.com/users/HimmlerFonzerelli http://ytmnd.com/users/MengeleFonzerelli http://ytmnd.com/users/cunningham http://ytmnd.com/users/fufu http://ytmnd.com/users/hellodeer http://ytmnd.com/users/simber http://ytmnd.com/users/information
October 12th, 2007
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http://ytmnd.com/users/DrJosef http://ytmnd.com/users/d4y5tguty http://ytmnd.com/users/jigger http://ytmnd.com/users/BIOSHOCKe http://ytmnd.com/users/BIOSHOCKf http://ytmnd.com/users/BIOSHOCKd http://ytmnd.com/users/cod4 http://ytmnd.com/users/tf2 http://ytmnd.com/users/rrrr http://ytmnd.com/users/sslqh
October 12th, 2007
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I'm in ur Spy watching ur 126 alt accounts
October 12th, 2007
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I think yourmomthinksimcool is the main account. He has over 30 now.
October 12th, 2007
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What's the point posting these anymore? We all know that unless he starts openly challenging Max like tonydanzalol did, Max won't do anything.
October 12th, 2007
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It isn't momthinksimcool, it's jizzmotron.
October 12th, 2007
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very interesting thought about the 'alts' It's a lot like an artist or musician who has several different band names or aliases for different, seemingly incongruous aspects to their work. At what point do you create a different identity or at what point do you seek to integrate it all back into a whole?
October 14th, 2007
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Would you rather be a pig?
October 14th, 2007
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HAY GUYZ I FOUND THIS KEWL NEW WEBSITE BUZZFART.YTMND.COM
October 14th, 2007
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There's a pig's head and a gay unicorn pissing rainbows on my Top Viewed site. Anyone care to explain?
October 14th, 2007
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don't grow up to be a pig
October 14th, 2007
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I think it's Max's way of saying the top view sucks.
October 14th, 2007
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Fair enough.
October 14th, 2007
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I actually don't think this past week has been bad even though everyone who made a Michael Scott turtle site did so in the most predictable manner.
October 14th, 2007
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remind me again why top viewed sites now get a lot less views than they used to, lol
October 14th, 2007
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Unicorn pissing rainbows = supreme win
October 14th, 2007
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Yep yep yep yep werp werp wurp wep bum bum bumbum bo po bo bo dum dum dumdum.
October 14th, 2007
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hey hey you you
October 14th, 2007
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a pig is an animal with dirt on it's face
October 15th, 2007
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a mule is an animal with long funny ears
October 14th, 2007
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what's up with the pig?
October 15th, 2007
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The pig is Max placing his opinion on his page about the stuff on the top viewed.
October 14th, 2007
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YIP YIP YIP YIP WERP MUH MOO MOO MOO MOO WERP ER A pig is an animal with dirt on his face!
October 14th, 2007
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I want to thank Larry David for teaching me how to say "c*ck sucker" in sign language.
October 15th, 2007
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ESSENTIAL LIFE SKILLS
October 15th, 2007
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golden brown, texture like sun. lays me down with my mind she runs.
October 16th, 2007
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what time is it?
October 16th, 2007
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Hello Hello, You're the Man Now Dog, http://ytmnd.com/users/RichClem/ http://ytmnd.com/users/mattdotnett/ http://ytmnd.com/users/mattpalaszewski/ Also I will dispose of anyone with alternate accounts... Thank you, and goodnight.
October 17th, 2007
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I am probably not the first person to tell you this, but are you insane? Amazon S3 already offers the functionality you require, but you want to start a competitor? Good luck. I understand if you were writing it for your own site and just wanted to capitalize on the work you've already done making YTMND work better, but it still seems like a weird idea.
October 17th, 2007
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simple solution: little disposable rear-view-mirror sean connery air fresheners.
October 18th, 2007
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Hey, Max. No matter what you do, YTMND has brought me endless hours of entertainment and I thank you for having the vision to create something so unique.
October 18th, 2007
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agreed
October 18th, 2007
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moar liek mystery f*g re-lag
October 19th, 2007
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max, I couldn't agree more with you on every point you made in this post.
October 21st, 2007
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Gee, I wonder what Max will do next? Make it rain chocolate on YTMND with the chocolate rain fad song going?
October 21st, 2007
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I want him to bring that puppy back with all the sparkles and Alpha Beta Gaga playing in the background
October 22nd, 2007
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Delete user "bliss," please
October 23rd, 2007
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i miss the good ol ytmnd. good times
October 24th, 2007
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Any users affected by the CA Wildfires?
October 24th, 2007
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im surrounded by fire
October 24th, 2007
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^ That's Smee in the corner.
October 26th, 2007
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PLEASE DONT DELETE ME! I'VE BEEN GOOD! I'VE JUST BEEN BUSY, YA KNOW, WITH NO NEW SITES AND ALL (a girlfriend also helps take the time away as well) booty is good
October 28th, 2007
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This must be my first visit in a year.
October 28th, 2007
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MYSQL ERROR Seriously Max, you need to get some good people on your team
October 29th, 2007
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I've never been a part of the YTMND community, but as someone who comes here and lurks almost daily, I hope you continue to devote some time to YTMND. Its nice to be able to come here and see what sort of casual, stupid, and annoying things I can find to lighten up my work week. Here's to hoping that your muse stays with you during your two new projects, and I hope that the GFS-type site works out... what a pain in the *ss to undertake. Anyways take care whle you do that but dont let this place go to hell.
October 29th, 2007
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Any 'community' means chaos, the very chaos that is human nature to seek out and gain popularity or fame. The 'Internet' once and in some aspects a great place where 'popular' culture and 'non-popular' culture collide and fight for the place at the top. But what is this "King of the castle"? This is why communities will never be what you want them, if your ideas become 'popular' then they are worshiped in a mindless conundrum, thus evolving the original idea by way of the urge to promote ones self in the ..
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social heirarchy created by the original idea in it's self, thus originality is exploited and used up to it's last drop. To aim for something is to see yourself fail to reach it. The idea of a community where there is no social ranking or fame is the only system that I see not being exploited, though would such a system work? would people spend hours fasting just to post their original content if they aren't recognized for it? would such a system even be allowed to be birthed as no one would seek it?
October 30th, 2007
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update news plz k thx
October 31st, 2007
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MurdarMachene should be a featured user
October 31st, 2007
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Nice holiday color scheme
November 1st, 2007
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LADIES AND GENTLEMEN...this is MAMBO NUMBER FIVE. I smell a gimmick account.
November 1st, 2007
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Is the music supposed to be skipping so much, or is my internet haunted?
November 1st, 2007
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Ghost in the mach-ma-ma-mambo number 5
November 1st, 2007
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these are MY MAMBOS
November 1st, 2007
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Max, you're weird.
November 1st, 2007
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awwwwww
November 1st, 2007
443rd
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MAMBO #5
November 2nd, 2007
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PENISSSS
November 3rd, 2007
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Why do I keep coming back? What the hell is wrong with me? >_>
November 4th, 2007
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You know, despite its obvious problems, I still think YTMND is the best online creative outlet.
November 4th, 2007
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sounds good, good luck on ur new sights
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