As I am unable to determine who or where exactly the potential alt or collusion downvoting is coming from, I am attempting to restore any downvotes on the account "SusanTrepid" by upvoting the most recent comment section. It is clear that I came to a presumptuous decision regarding the direction of the comment downvotes based purely on assumptions.
If Max does return to sort out this potential downvote issue (assuming it is alt based,) that will be the adequate course of action to remedy any possible issues. He can just follow downvotes (such as those possibly on this comment) to a common source.
I am raising a white flag of neutrality here, I am only interested in Max opening the source up for this website so that we can experiment and possibly improve on it.
As a response to: http://ytmnd.wikia.com/wiki/Omicron2, and http://ytmnd.wikia.com/wiki/Conflationism:
If I sound unsympathetic or unmoved towards other users affected by aggressive copywrite claims, I apologize. I've seen the internet go from a place of wonder to what it is now. My air of unsympathy is purely disappointment of the system and copywrite claims in general - and realizing the futility of trying to influence major corporate powers like Google for the idea of free entertainment.
I'm also always grateful for others wanting to backup YTMND sites, I can't do it alone especially via the method I'm employing (keeping the site assets as they are.) Others backing up YTMND sites would cover those I would certainly miss, or I would never bother with. Uploading sites to Youtube is still an acceptable medium as more would be able to experience them opposed to my more private backup of material.
Honestly, at this point I'm just here to promote backing up both sites, AND the code. YTMND's code is like gold, Max might not want to use it or touch it again, and it's very possible it might get lost to time (which would be a tragedy.)
Now I get it, my userID on here is [i]223850[/i], and Raiderkenny's userID is [i]22385[/i] (look at the page source.) The form Max is using for sponsorship which creates a POST request probably is no longer compliant with Paypal, or there is just some disagreement between the two for verification. Yet another item that needs to be fixed...
I wonder if there is a way to fuck with the POST request on that form with "SITE_SPONSORSHIP-1014690-223850" to make it look like other users sponsored it (like Max lol.) Something like "SITE_SPONSORSHIP-1014690-1" or "SITE_SPONSORSHIP-1014690-10" in case the zero is getting dropped.
Another thought, if no serverside checks are being done on site creation, you could make YTMNDs that direct to outside links. Bypass Max's regular expression checks in the .js for domain checking (or just force another post request) for a site with a subdomain like "google.com?" which should create a redirect for "google.com?ytmnd.com," users would then go to Google when they click the site with "ytmnd.com" passed during the GET request.
Voting on that site would be impossible until someone forced a load on that site via something like Curl for the full hostname of "google.com?ytmnd.com" for the host field.
Obviously someone(s) doesn't/don't want me here, and it's clear the only point of this place is for spamming "elephant feces" on the front page with no creative effort.
I'll leave this place and try to remember it how it was back in 2007, not how it is now. Those days have [i]long[/i] past.
To be honest, I'm amazed that [user max:profile] has still kept this place up. I would have likely killed it off years ago, or at least disabled site and user creation. Props to him for doing something I wouldn't.
And I'll say it again one more time: [user max:profile], if you see this, please at least consider open sourcing this place so it can live on in happier times. Times where smaller groups of people who actually care about their content can post on it, and its code can extended for all eternity.
You keep the domain and the trade mark, we can experience and keep a website we once held to such high regards as the best place on the internet.
I've got the sites I care about backed up, and I see no value in staying or attempting to influence/contribute to content on here in a land of alts and feces.
The only thing I said is that there are some people archiving site assets, while others (such as you) are doing the Youtube thing. Planet is plenty big enough for both formats, no reason to turn this into some strange war.
No one is "not showing respect" to the "ex-youtube users," some just prefer one format while others like the more original YTMND style.
I can't help you with Youtube problems, you want to battle copywrite claims on a MULTI-BILLION dollar company? Go for it, hire yourself boatloads of lawyers and go after Google/Alphabet then. I'm sorry you got hit with copywrite problems, but don't take it out on people here.
I'm not here to fight anybody, especially you or anyone else. (I'm assuming it's you) obviously got angered by something and proceeded to mass downvote my comments. I've never directed any hostile comment at your or anyone else on here for that matter and I am just browsing the website like I always have, back in 2007.
Just take a breath and settle down, we're all YTMNDers here. There's too far few of us left to be attacking each other.
"I'm taking a break from making Pokemon sites. Now I'm finding funnier ideas for the time being." - Good idea, sites like this legitimately contribute.
I think YTMND is getting a bit glitchy about sponsorships and userIDs. I sponsored something a bit ago and it showed up as a sponsorship from "RaiderKenny."
Well, the "archiveteam" project mention on both their website and on the Gizmodo pointed out that the entire database and file set are going to be backed up. The question just comes down to if we can actually access it or not.
If you have YTMNDs that are important, list it on this one and I'll add it to my collection of stuff. I'd also recommending backing it up yourself as well by saving the page and assets directly. You can recreate it without too much problem (HTML page, pictures, sound, HTML5 tags, and some javascript.)
Another part of the battle is to (and yes, I know I go on about this A LOT) open source YTMND's entire repository. This would allow the current version and prior versions to be accessible for us to extend as well. Moot open sourced his Canvas and DrawQuest code bases not that long ago, if YTMND goes down, I see no reason why YTMND should disappear completely.
Sort of have to agree at this point, either that, or some sort of website "improve" and "reboot."
Problem is, almost nothing is really worth viewing nowadays with most of the sites on here mediocre at best that have been produced recently.
Most of the new stuff seems to only have one of maybe five users constantly producing content with forced fads that would have been buried quick back in 2005-2007.
Haven't attempted this software, but it seems similar to what Archiveteam is doing with their planned crawling effort. I'll have to test some of these automated offline downloaders when I have the time so I can see if they leave anything off.
From the Archiveteam page, I think 1.7TB was mentioned for the main site and asset storage, and 180GB for MySQL information. So, around 2TB (to be fair, that's actually next to nothing now.)
However, I lack the internet connection or really the care to backup absolutely everything. Better to just backup the main highlights, and leave the bulk of the database for people that can handle it.
Now, if Max were planning to sell 2TB HDDs with all of YTMND loaded on it, that might be something to contemplate buying...
Keatonkeaton999 could be one of a few on a whitelist who consistently had good sites (can't forget Epic Beatz as one example,) and is allowed to, or maybe Max approved his site individually.
Another thought is that he might have just banned everyone who was not on that former "featured users" list back when that thing was all the rage.
YTMND also had mods once upon a time, wouldn't surprise me if he was one of them either. He's not listed on the staff page, but who knows when that was updated last.
I guess it's a bit disheartening to know the rest of us are considered "trash," but oh well.
Yeah... AMD got to both x86-64 and a IMC on a real "block block" production processor first. Didn't get IMCs on real Intel processors until i7 in 2009...
I don't count Intel's IMC efforts on some derpy low power processors prior to that though.
One of these days, Blizzard will eventually release those older servers so we can host full (legal) 2.4.3 content... and I will have the assets for this on hand to link on said server.
I still was planning on that Skylake/Kabylake remake of socket370.ytmnd.com on 01/01/2017 for the 10 year anniversary... I won't have a YTMND codebase to submit it to... just me, notepad, and some magic HTML5 tags...
Omicron2's recent comments:
If Max does return to sort out this potential downvote issue (assuming it is alt based,) that will be the adequate course of action to remedy any possible issues. He can just follow downvotes (such as those possibly on this comment) to a common source.
I am raising a white flag of neutrality here, I am only interested in Max opening the source up for this website so that we can experiment and possibly improve on it.
As a response to: http://ytmnd.wikia.com/wiki/Omicron2, and http://ytmnd.wikia.com/wiki/Conflationism:
If I sound unsympathetic or unmoved towards other users affected by aggressive copywrite claims, I apologize. I've seen the internet go from a place of wonder to what it is now. My air of unsympathy is purely disappointment of the system and copywrite claims in general - and realizing the futility of trying to influence major corporate powers like Google for the idea of free entertainment.
I'm also always grateful for others wanting to backup YTMND sites, I can't do it alone especially via the method I'm employing (keeping the site assets as they are.) Others backing up YTMND sites would cover those I would certainly miss, or I would never bother with. Uploading sites to Youtube is still an acceptable medium as more would be able to experience them opposed to my more private backup of material.
Honestly, at this point I'm just here to promote backing up both sites, AND the code. YTMND's code is like gold, Max might not want to use it or touch it again, and it's very possible it might get lost to time (which would be a tragedy.)
I wonder if there is a way to fuck with the POST request on that form with "SITE_SPONSORSHIP-1014690-223850" to make it look like other users sponsored it (like Max lol.) Something like "SITE_SPONSORSHIP-1014690-1" or "SITE_SPONSORSHIP-1014690-10" in case the zero is getting dropped.
Another thought, if no serverside checks are being done on site creation, you could make YTMNDs that direct to outside links. Bypass Max's regular expression checks in the .js for domain checking (or just force another post request) for a site with a subdomain like "google.com?" which should create a redirect for "google.com?ytmnd.com," users would then go to Google when they click the site with "ytmnd.com" passed during the GET request.
Voting on that site would be impossible until someone forced a load on that site via something like Curl for the full hostname of "google.com?ytmnd.com" for the host field.
Obviously someone(s) doesn't/don't want me here, and it's clear the only point of this place is for spamming "elephant feces" on the front page with no creative effort.
I'll leave this place and try to remember it how it was back in 2007, not how it is now. Those days have [i]long[/i] past.
To be honest, I'm amazed that [user max:profile] has still kept this place up. I would have likely killed it off years ago, or at least disabled site and user creation. Props to him for doing something I wouldn't.
And I'll say it again one more time: [user max:profile], if you see this, please at least consider open sourcing this place so it can live on in happier times. Times where smaller groups of people who actually care about their content can post on it, and its code can extended for all eternity.
You keep the domain and the trade mark, we can experience and keep a website we once held to such high regards as the best place on the internet.
I've got the sites I care about backed up, and I see no value in staying or attempting to influence/contribute to content on here in a land of alts and feces.
Thanks everyone, and [user max:profile].
The only thing I said is that there are some people archiving site assets, while others (such as you) are doing the Youtube thing. Planet is plenty big enough for both formats, no reason to turn this into some strange war.
No one is "not showing respect" to the "ex-youtube users," some just prefer one format while others like the more original YTMND style.
I can't help you with Youtube problems, you want to battle copywrite claims on a MULTI-BILLION dollar company? Go for it, hire yourself boatloads of lawyers and go after Google/Alphabet then. I'm sorry you got hit with copywrite problems, but don't take it out on people here.
I'm not here to fight anybody, especially you or anyone else. (I'm assuming it's you) obviously got angered by something and proceeded to mass downvote my comments. I've never directed any hostile comment at your or anyone else on here for that matter and I am just browsing the website like I always have, back in 2007.
Just take a breath and settle down, we're all YTMNDers here. There's too far few of us left to be attacking each other.
If you have YTMNDs that are important, list it on this one and I'll add it to my collection of stuff. I'd also recommending backing it up yourself as well by saving the page and assets directly. You can recreate it without too much problem (HTML page, pictures, sound, HTML5 tags, and some javascript.)
Another part of the battle is to (and yes, I know I go on about this A LOT) open source YTMND's entire repository. This would allow the current version and prior versions to be accessible for us to extend as well. Moot open sourced his Canvas and DrawQuest code bases not that long ago, if YTMND goes down, I see no reason why YTMND should disappear completely.
Problem is, almost nothing is really worth viewing nowadays with most of the sites on here mediocre at best that have been produced recently.
Most of the new stuff seems to only have one of maybe five users constantly producing content with forced fads that would have been buried quick back in 2005-2007.
However, I lack the internet connection or really the care to backup absolutely everything. Better to just backup the main highlights, and leave the bulk of the database for people that can handle it.
Now, if Max were planning to sell 2TB HDDs with all of YTMND loaded on it, that might be something to contemplate buying...
Another thought is that he might have just banned everyone who was not on that former "featured users" list back when that thing was all the rage.
YTMND also had mods once upon a time, wouldn't surprise me if he was one of them either. He's not listed on the staff page, but who knows when that was updated last.
I guess it's a bit disheartening to know the rest of us are considered "trash," but oh well.
In addition to the regular database copy, Archiveteam also wants to run a scraping/crawling operation to backup the sites one by one as they are.
Stopping further site creation might be the final step...
I don't count Intel's IMC efforts on some derpy low power processors prior to that though.
$3 to get it to the front page.
I doubt he'd respond on here, and while he has a few online accounts (Reddit, Google,) I doubt he'll respond directly on those either
Maybe he just doesn't want to deal with YTMNDers anymore, I guess I can understand, but it's still a little saddening.
How did a user who hasn't logged in since 2007 "Raiderkenny" get cited for it? I don't think I clicked anonymous.
*frantically grabs everything and shoves in a small container*
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