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max, please don't do a mass-delete of all sites that contain the word 'ebaum', some of these sites are GOLD.
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| "Cease and Desist" from Neil Bauman |
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2006-01-10 |
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I too registered for the sole purpose of commenting on the war. eBaums needs to wake up and see that it's not just YTMND that's against them, but rather the entire internet. SA, 4chan, LUE, Fark, etc, the list goes on. The fact that they are trying to single out YTMND and make it sound like it was simply a small group of deviants who were involved in this is disgusting. This isn't YTMND vs. eBaums, it's the Internet vs. eBaums.
BTW, the image appears to have been taken down (from the 187 location as well). I look foward to hearing eBaums's reply to this.
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| "Cease and Desist" from Neil Bauman |
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2006-01-10 |
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He called your bluff Max. You're going to have to be the better man and live up to your bargain. Though it's easier for them to lose one gif than it is for you to police this entire site for eBaums ytmnds, which are user created. At first I thought it was a small victory, but now I see eBaums got the much better deal and might call you on it when all your 'loving' users create ways to get around not being able to make eBaums ytmnds. Don't get me wrong, they're a sh*tty website with 0 original content and loads of ads, and this is great place. But I think you got shafted with the shadier deal.
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| "Cease and Desist" from Neil Bauman |
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I don't know who made the Wikipedia entry of "World Wide Web War 1" -- but it certainly places things in perspective. Yeah, Neil does look like a buffoon submitting a more-or-less corporate letter like that without contacting his lawyers and whatnot to confirm that he infact won't be making a wrong move and giving others a reason to counter-sue (if you will).
That being said... I am also suprised that all of these different communities stood up, it's a very honorable thing to do for something that you created. Naturally, it shows that infact, 'we' (the majority of people who stood up for the content being created -- and then exploited by Ebaums) don't needd to hide behind lawyers nor paperwork. Yes, it has some concenquences, very bad ones, but its the concenquences that some people need to face in order to tell others (for example, Neil/Eric Baumen) that their sh*t-work is a wrongdoing.
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| "Cease and Desist" from Neil Bauman |
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2006-01-10 |
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Max said he would delete anything with the term ebaum, not if the site was about ebaum.
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| "Cease and Desist" from Neil Bauman |
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Ebaum's dad LOLs? What a f*ggot.
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| "Cease and Desist" from Neil Bauman |
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2006-01-10 |
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(although I've not been able to verify the new filename on the wiki, and it was posted without reference. It's to be taken with a grain of salt, but such a move is not out-of-character, judging from the emails, so I tend to believe it. It'd be nifty if someone could find the addy to the file on ebaum's server...)
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| "Cease and Desist" from Neil Bauman |
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2006-01-10 |
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He took it off his site completely. Now, tonight at midnight, all ebaum refences will be gone. Do it, Max, delete everything. This internet war is tearing me apart! lol
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| "Cease and Desist" from Neil Bauman |
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2006-01-10 |
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Oh Max...You have shown me the error of my ways. Your logic and reason are comparable to that of even Phoenix Wright, ace attorney. I hope you can stop the menace that is eBaum.
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| "Cease and Desist" from Neil Bauman |
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Max owns eBaum's life and eBaum's dad too.
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| "Cease and Desist" from Neil Bauman |
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2006-01-10 |
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I've been online for a year now, and I've only just discovered YTMND in the last few days. Ebaums, I've known of much longer and even went as far as to join their forums. But now that I know of the way they do business, and how they carry themselves on personal levels - I say FVCK them. Their site is a dead one to me......
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| "Cease and Desist" from Neil Bauman |
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2006-01-10 |
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a 40-year old "executive" who lives in his office and says 'LOL' while throwing anti-semitic remarks, versus Max? gg ebaum, your dad f*cked it up for you.
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| "Cease and Desist" from Neil Bauman |
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2006-01-10 |
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Wow, if that's professional at ebaums world...
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| "Cease and Desist" from Neil Bauman |
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2006-01-10 |
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Very excellent "professionalism" on ebaums' part, referring to us as pimply-faced maladjusted teens. I cant think of very many things further from professional than petty tunnel-visioned insults from a thief. Sincerely, Nick Carroll
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| "Cease and Desist" from Neil Bauman |
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2006-01-10 |
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Well said Max. And what a dumb *ss Niel is you're right you are trying to help and he just spits in your face. What an A-Whole and nice offer for the "I will delete anything with the term "eBaum". I offer to do this for you if you remove lohanfacial.html from your website. But i bet like a million bucks he wont *And if he does please don't hold me to this im broke LOL* Well once again nicely done Max.
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| "Cease and Desist" from Neil Bauman |
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2006-01-10 |
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I recently heard that eBaums world makes about $6000 a day. They have their own building, employees, and lawyers. Max has (if i am correct) NONE of that. He has a normal job and makes an honest living. The cheap bastards at eBaums world cant get off their lazy butts to get permission to use a picture or song. It would probably take LESS time. And if an EVP is that unproffesional with letters like that, his son is probably much worse. Max has tried to stop this, but the people at EB can't take the time to check their info. Max gets blasted. For nothing.
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| "Cease and Desist" from Neil Bauman |
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I as well find it pathetic that someone with neil bauman's overall intelligence and maturity is the vice president of ebaum's "corporation."
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| "Cease and Desist" from Neil Bauman |
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I want to know which kids thought it was funny and smart to go and send death threats--way to dig the grave, fellas. Just because eBaums is a site that profits on dishonesty does not mean that measures of that extent are necessary. Still, I'm so impressed that so many people decided that they were fed up with the injustice, and, finding no help--especially from the legal system--decided to try to remedy. Too bad vigilante-work never gets anywhere. =\
But bravo to Max for standing up for his rights--you really did have nothing to do with this, and you stick by it.
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| "Cease and Desist" from Neil Bauman |
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I'd also like to point out, Ebaum's World has had enough proof that the Lindsay Lohan thin was in fact stolen. As for the "immature" prnaks, I'd like to ask Eric Bauman how mature it is to withhold credit from things people have done. Next time Eric, type the message yourself, pussy.
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| "Cease and Desist" from Neil Bauman |
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2006-01-10 |
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Stan: Wait, before we put a message out, do a search on the images of ebaum.
Kyle: Hmm OK Found: 8,000,000 taken pictures found with the ebaumsworld tag on it.
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| "Cease and Desist" from Neil Bauman |
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2006-01-10 |
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Ok I just finished reading the other comments, YOU GUYS HAVE TO STOP!!!
All you guys are doing now is making us seem like ignorent jerks and although most of us may be, the site still deservs no peneltys for some hackers and spammers actions.
By saying "MAX PWNZ" or something kind of proves that we don't care and can't do anything like real people (hahahaha, I couldnt hold in the loughter after thinking that out in my head). Stop all of this before eBaums finds something they can sue max for. Just let it go, he took the image of anyway, now lets hold up our part of the deal...
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| "Cease and Desist" from Neil Bauman |
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Its true!! eBaums world lead by *ssholes. my two cents. you go max
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| "Cease and Desist" from Neil Bauman |
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People on eBaum's forum are saying this is a hoax. Max would never deceive us like that. Eric on the other hand has stolen content blatantly, lied about the origins of said content(Direct embed of Sega Game), has made a lot of money (approx. $6000 a day) off of this said work. I wonder how much of this money goes to solving things out of court and legal fees.
Things we can do to help:
1. Advise his employers (Advertising Companies) of the crude and inane attempts to rip of others work via the "Submission" plot. If advertisers realize that you won't buy from them they will quickly change their minds about giving him the money he needs to run his site. Simple and effiective. with as many users there are on YTMND.com there should be very few problems considering everyone uses ok grammer (occasional mistake is fine just don't sound like a complete f*cktard) and spelling.
2. Stop the Dos and hacking. We need to take him out the legal way.
3. Give Max our support and help.
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| "Cease and Desist" from Neil Bauman |
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Had to log in to comment on this. I'm not an author of many good sites, and I've known about Ebaum's stealing but never truly cared about it until now. I thought what happened in the past few days was immature on both sides, for us and them, us with our DDoS and hacks and insults, them with their insults and (empty?) threats of legal action. But this email is a jewel in max's "crown". He proved that you don't need to use insults or threats to get your way, you just need to be calm, unfazed, and willing to negotiate to get your way. And max did it. And he won a greater victory than any of our whining did (I myself was not a part of the raid but was with you all in spirit). I hope this is an example to everyone about how to handle disputes.
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| "Cease and Desist" from Neil Bauman |
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I wouldn't worry too much about any legal attacks made by the Baumans on YTMND or any person in that matter.
This email proves in fact that the Baumans aren't researching their facts and are in fact THREATENING Max in a very unprofessional manner.
Seriously, how can a man like that run a business. Not that I consider a page like Ebaums a business.
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| "Cease and Desist" from Neil Bauman |
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2006-01-10 |
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The way in which he talks about the FBI makes me think he is full of bullsh*t and that Neil's fears came tru and the FBI and police did not in fact take him seriously at all. In fact, it really sounds like a 15 year old wrote it, with the internet slang (such as LOL) and blatant insults and slander to you and the YTMND forum members. I think ebaum, or even is little brother (if he has one) is just being an angry *ss who has no case whatsoever... also check legaladvice.ytmnd.com to see part of my point.
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| "Cease and Desist" from Neil Bauman |
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ebaum needs to learn to not take threats from ytmnd seriously.....it's ytmnd...if we wanted anything done one of the die hard ytmnd users would have called the mafia...let's just end this "war" and let it be..like the beatles song goes
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| "Cease and Desist" from Neil Bauman |
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i feel like a true solider. god bless ytmnd. that being said, this is kind of going overboard. making a ytmnd to poke fun at a website is one thing, but pinging and uhhh "visiting the company" is kind of uncalled for. i'll delete my ebaum ytmnd immediately. us "pimply-faced maladjusted" people don't take to kindly to this. i suggest legal action.
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| cleanup time. |
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2006-01-11 |
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The animation in question was deleted over at ebaum. And i'm very thankful over that! :D
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| cleanup time. |
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2006-01-11 |
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But doesn't that m,ean that eBaum can just make a site called "lohan-facial.html"?
...This isn't ending anytime soon, is it?
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