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eBaums world IS NOT GOING TO CONTACT THE FBI. THEY BREAK COPYRIGHT LAWS TOO, NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY.

Exactly. I'm all for using stolen material. Because, like I said, I respect the artistic validity of it. I think stolen art is a fantastic creation, and I think recontextualizing it is important. But let's not be litigious DMCA douchebags over stuff that we stole ourselves. I've said it before, but destroy ebaums because they suck sh*t. Not because they steal.

Yeah. That's what I mean. We do steal, but it's just pics. They accuse us of "stealing" materail, but look at them. There's nothing wrong with the materail we have. But really, the eBaumers are pricks.

I'm not talking about ebaums already! I'm saying WHAT WE DO BREAKS COPYRIGHT LAW. And that puts us in a really terrible spot to try and enforce any (imagined) copyright we may have.

bahahahaha lmfao Ebaums got pwned, thumbs up to SA, and Max of course...

Ottervomit: Nobody's disputing that here. Nobody wants to get rid of the sites that violate copyright. But how can we violate copyright and consider the whole world fair use then flip the f*ck out and cry DMCA any time someone takes our work? Anybody who tries to explain the difference between ebaums lift and our lifts see my above posts. Artistic and moral validity aren't what we're talking about. We're talking strictly legal.

Max, you rock. I so hate eBaums. I am sick of the theft without even one note as credit. You show them who the man is!

Inkdrinker: Nobody here is thinking of suing ebaumsworld. But there is a difference between us using material to amuse the other users on this site, and ebaums using it to make millions on advertising. The fact that he is making ludicrous amounts of money off things lifted from hobby sites just pisses more than a few people off.

You're right. They took ONE image, and everyone flips out. I, at first, thought they actually did something bad. But they took an image. Sure, eBaums World sucks, but..... It's just...... an image. Enterntainment. Money? No. Just enterntainment.

"There's nothing wrong with it. We have the right to use what we want." Which would mean even Ebaum has the right to steal from us, even if he's a douchebag. That's the point I've been trying to make all along. We can't scream bloody murder about intellectual property one minute and steal the next.

Legally speaking, I wouldn't care to postulate on Eric Bauman's practices or anyone else's for that matter, as I am not qualified. One must assume however that since its been stated that he has a "team of lawyers" that someone has challenged him before in a legal arena and failed. So legally he is probably in the clear somehow, even though there is no doubt he is a douschebag and almost universally hated. A successful legal assault against ebaums could backfire on YTMND considerably.

Right. No matter what we think of eBaum, he can take our images. I hate him too, but there's nothing we can do.

For the last time, eBaum won't be able to press charges for anything. HE SAYS WE'RE CYBER-TERRORISTS, LOL.

Can we make ebaums ytmnd? Because, it says we cant, He hasn't take down the lohan thing though. :(

So? That means we steal images all the time. Even if you credit the owner, without the owner's permission, it's stealing. We've stolen from eBaums world before.

actually, we stole from whoever ebaum stole it from

ebaum didnt acredit it to the originator... y should we acredit it to ebaum?

I was reading this site beforehand..... and we were stealing from eBaum before this happened.

*side note* im talkin about ppl sayin the creator of the lohan ytmnd not ebaum, cause ebaum can kiss my big fat american fatt ass

granted, the ORIGINAL ORIGINAL picture is of course sold, after the "picutree" signs a release allowing his/her image to be used, once that image hits a magazine, its free for us, AS long as u dont take watermark it, like ebaum. you dont have to give credit to anyone for it. but, if that picture was never sold, it would be stealing. say i went to some photographers house and took some pictures he had of trebek, and made a ytmnd outta it, that would be stealing, if he had sold the pic to a site or magazine or w/e and i made the ytmnd, not stealing, its the entertainment world, its how it works

What Ebaum's did isn't so much copyright infringement ( - with regards to lohanfacial - ....ymntd is in fact guilty of copyright infringement as well. In terms of many of the music and images it uses) but more guilty of stealing another "comedian's joke". It's in bad taste to do so, and all your peers will hate you for it, but I probably can take you to court over it.

I agree attacking the site was wrong, to an extent, but it's no different than using mal code to bring up pages from www.somethingawful.com on their front page to kill SA's bandwidth. I am 100% behind the "shut down eBaums" cause, but doing anything illegal won't get us anywhere, and may even strengthen his position. In the end we've accomplished nothing, sadly, but we can have the pride in knowing that we've done what no one has been able to do in the course of history, and that is get something removed from eBaums by request. it's sad it took thousands of pissed off people for them to do it.

Coming from SA which is built around its forums, which were basically built on info and links to torrents to download music and films, I found it highly laughable that SA take such offence against ebaums. The double standards from every site involved in this with maybe the exception of NG is f'ing laughable.

it bothers me that ebaums world makes so much goddamn money from stealing, but this is a poor choice to argue over: In this case he 'stole' already stolen content. those pictures of lindsay lohan are stolen because the people who posted them here do not hold the copyright. therefore the person who made the "lindsay lohan doesn't change facial expressions" ytmnd doesn't own it, and in the law ebaum isn't stealing any more than people on YTMND are and no, the uses here don't count as parody, or criticism, or anything ELSE that would fall under fair use. it's just stealing / slapping stuff on a webpage together. it's copyright infringement, you're wrong, get over it for f*cks sake, make some original content before you bitch

it bothers me that ebaums world makes so much goddamn money from stealing, but this is a poor choice to argue over: In this case he 'stole' already stolen content. those pictures of lindsay lohan are stolen because the people who posted them here do not hold the copyright. therefore the person who made the "lindsay lohan doesn't change facial expressions" ytmnd doesn't own it, and in the law ebaum isn't stealing any more than people on YTMND are and no, the uses here don't count as parody, or criticism, or anything ELSE that would fall under fair use. it's just stealing / slapping stuff on a webpage together. it's copyright infringement, you're wrong, get over it for f*cks sake, make some original content before you bitch

"In this case he 'stole' already stolen content. those pictures of lindsay lohan are stolen because the people who posted them here do not hold the copyright." Nein. For starters, the fact that the pictures are not original is not relevant: plenty of art is made from recycled material showing original company logos and such. It's re-used in a different way. But most importantly: it was the animated GIF that was stolen, not the individual pictures. The guy who made it had an idea and put effort into positioning and animating them in such a way that it looks the way it looks. -That- is wat the picture is about, it's SpliceVW's work, and -that- is what eBaum stole.

If all of you guys respect max and YTMND, which you obviously do. Then stop all this ebaum crap already! It's gone far enough and now their is a legal battle. Max can already be in serious trouble and if you care about YTMND and Max, then you would do what he asked, STOP THE EBAUM WAR MORONS!!! And to whoever hacked into Max's account just to post that somethingawful.com article which max wouldnt post: Give max his frikkin account back, you scumbag. You can be getting yourself into a large legal battle yourself if you refuse.

HEY FOLKS! If you're not the artist of a YTMND found elsewhere, STFU! Just let the YTMND owner know about it in a comment, and let them decide if they want it down or not! The only reason that the first action against ebaum was full scale war was because of ebaum's history! Why is there still a discussion about this?

Does anyone understand what i'm saying? The future existence of YTMND depends on whether or not you decide to stop this war! If you have a ebaum ytmnd, delete it. Put your weapons down folks, let's show max we suport him by doing what he asked and stop this whole thing. Max is the man now dog? SUPPORT HIM. STOP THE YTMND WAR!! NOW!! The future of YTMND depends on YOU!

I've been seeing content from Compfused.com ending up on ebaums world lately... lazy *ss bastards