I`m gonna 5 this just because dr-1337 commented "What part of PRIVATE messages don't you understand?"
If you dont want your whiny/girly threats shown to the public, perhaps you shouldnt pm whiny/girly threats to people.
The thing is, if your logic and arguments werent so horrible messed up, a discussion of religion might be possible. Unfortunatly, your "arguments" are simplified and devoid of actual information. I assume that in rl, you surround yourself with christian friends who all agree with you, since its obvious you`ve never before had any experience discussing with people who doesnt agree with you. I honestly believe that all my christian friends would shake their heads when they see what an incredibly misguided and ignorant attempt you are making to "enlighten" people about your belief.
Edit: I rephrased the content of my previous comment to clearify what I meant:
This “something” that exists beyond space/time/mass, must have, according to your theory, created concepts that are beyond the concepts of its own existence. By that logic, we too can create concepts that exists beyond our concepts of existence, but we would never be able to observe, to know, or to feel concepts that does not exist within our own concepts of existence. The same would be true for that “something” in your theory.
This “something” that exists beyond space/time/mass, must have, according to your theory, created concepts that are beyond the concepts of its own existence. By that logic, we too can create something that exists beyond our concepts of existence, but we would never be able to observe, to know, or to feel something that does not exist within our own concepts of existence. The same would be true for that “something” in your theory.
If you respond by saying that you can imagine god as something that exists beyond the concepts of our universe, beyond the concepts of space/time/mass, then haven’t you, according to your own logic created god?
Question: Your theory is that something that is beyond cause and effect, was the cause of the universe? Something, existing in a state without space/time/mass, and thusly have no concept of space/time/mass, created space/time/mass? Tell me, can you imagine something in your mind that doesnt involve space/time/mass in any way? Can you imagine something that is beyond our comprehension of existance? Can you imagine something, anything, that you dont know what is? Can you imagine something that you have no concept of? If you cant, then why do you think that something was able to create a universe with concepts that didnt exist before the universe itself did?
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