and the complaints come marching in

As many of you have noticed by the anti-ebaum sentiment, last night things seemed to reach boiling point.

I tried to stop this all when it was a snowball, but it just turned into an avalanche. I'd like to make an open statement to the community, in regards to DDoS. Don't do it. It sets a whole new precedent and will not end well, it affects a lot more than just ebaum sworld and really crosses the line.

I think there is a general distaste for ebaumsworld in the internet community and things just exploded last night. While I never supported or condoned the attacking anything, I was amazed to see so many communities come together for a vulgar display of power. I think there is something to be said for communities coming together for a common goal, even if it is over something so petty.

Soon the YTMND forums will be back up and I'm sure at that point the ebaumers will get a chance to strike back at our little community and the circle of life will be complete. Until that time, since I know I can't persuade you guys to stop, at least keep it legal.

I now have a ton of clean-up work to do. If you see any "DDoS" or "Ping" related YTMNDs, please use the report this site feature so I can delete them.

-Max

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January 8th, 2006
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gamepro how do i find ur stuff?
January 8th, 2006
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yeah,I think this site is making this a bigger deal then it needs to be...
January 8th, 2006
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hell, at least we taught that who not to screw with ^____^
January 8th, 2006
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@ inkdrinker: drop me a line I don't feel like spamming here anymore.
January 8th, 2006
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Sunshineandlove.ytmnd.com
January 8th, 2006
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dude u just asked me to look at ur stuff and tell you what i hear
January 8th, 2006
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I know you didn't specifically want this, Max, but it was inevitable. We act as a people in a world you mae for us. We are grateful, and act in our names alone. This is only the will of the people.
January 8th, 2006
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kornchipmunks.ytmnd.com
January 8th, 2006
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So I should tell my hitman not to kill Eric Bauman?
January 8th, 2006
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yes ur sites
January 8th, 2006
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Sunshineandlove.ytmnd.com Sunshineandlove.ytmnd.com Sunshineandlove.ytmnd.com Sunshineandlove.ytmnd.com Sunshineandlove.ytmnd.com Sunshineandlove.ytmnd.com Sunshineandlove.ytmnd.com Sunshineandlove.ytmnd.com Sunshineandlove.ytmnd.com Sunshineandlove.ytmnd.com Have fun!
January 8th, 2006
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if any of you has ever seen the peter griffin lives ytmnd,,, that dramatic music thats also with many other ytmnd's,, were do i get it what is it from??
January 8th, 2006
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there is no sound,, but their funny
January 8th, 2006
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http://petergriffonlives.ytmnd.com/ How do i get that music???!!!
January 8th, 2006
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^BAN BassGuitar25
January 8th, 2006
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View > Page Source > Find the url of the sound > Open media player > Open Url > Paste Url > Ok > File > Save as
January 8th, 2006
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http://youbetterruneric.ytmnd.com/ this is GENIOUS bass guitar!!!
January 8th, 2006
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There's a MAJOR difference between YTMND and eBaum: No one makes money off of YTMND, and all cash flow goes toward the support of the site. Bauman makes a living off of his site. So while both are certainly infringing on copyright, YTMND has the parody angle working for it (especially considering all the derivative works otherwise known as fads), where eBaum is outright theft. In the case of the Six Flags guy for example, YTMND is perfectly willing to take down sites upon the request of the owner. EBaum? He'd much rather dare real companies to look like bullies and sue him, ignore requests to remove content, and attempt to DDoS other communities that request en masse for the removal of content they own.
January 8th, 2006
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GUYS CHECK OUT MY NEW YTMND ECRIC BAUMAN HIGFHSCHOOL ON FRONT PAGE!!!!!!RATE IT!!!
January 8th, 2006
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January 8th, 2006
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It could Max wants us to take the PING sites down so Ebaums World ppl have no idea how to get back at us.
January 8th, 2006
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w00tZ0rz ebaums sucks
January 8th, 2006
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and Sunday, January 8 goes down in the history book as "YTMND Day" that was quite a fun war.
January 8th, 2006
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GG, guys
January 8th, 2006
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Max, you have over a thousand rabid fans that would do anything for you... and I mean anything...
January 8th, 2006
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Personally I think Max needs to delete all of the stuff off the front page... other than being unfunny all they do is take up space for ACTUAL YTMNDs can we just get back to normal please?...
January 8th, 2006
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^ Word.
January 8th, 2006
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More eBaumers! DOWNVOTE!
January 8th, 2006
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LOL NOTICE HE NEVER LINKED INTO EBAUMSWORLD
January 8th, 2006
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I am sorry - Love Eric
January 8th, 2006
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the ebaums crap is pointless. It was a lame site anyway. And the endless string of ebaum sites that I had to 1. Christ, it was annoying. You think i like giving out 1's?
January 8th, 2006
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Downvote us because we're sick of seeing 200 million YTMNDs about the same subject? OK g'head. I'll sum up every site ever made: YTMND RULES EBAUMS SUCKS. Yeah, I agree but... just... let's move on. OK I'm done.
January 8th, 2006
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I know DDoS is Illegal, and I wouldn't do it, but doesn't he sort deserve it. Ebaum himself posted melicious code before.
January 8th, 2006
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We win wootness!
January 8th, 2006
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Look at the forums,spam everywhere!
January 8th, 2006
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It's his fault for stealing the content. He shouldn't have done it in the first place, especially to a community that's known to raid.
January 8th, 2006
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Still, it's bad. lawl. I still love how Max never actually linked to ebams, and look how "ebaumers" is linked to "homesexuals."
January 8th, 2006
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Still, it's bad. lawl. I still love how Max never actually linked to ebams, and look how "ebaumers" is linked to "homesexuals."
January 8th, 2006
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Over 350 comments in less than HALF A DAY?!? Wowzers bo-BOWSERS!
January 8th, 2006
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YOUNGSTER. You call us nerds with no lives and low muscle mass, yet you spent 2 hours (so far) rabidly popping in here talking trash. You are the biggest nerd of this thread and I'd f*ck you up if you weren't a pussy insulting people over the internet. You're probably just as nerdy or at best a f*cking lowlife wigger. Go f*ck yourself.
January 8th, 2006
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you people act as if YTMND doesn't steal
January 8th, 2006
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A huge portion of YTMND is parodies. A huge portion of EbaumsWorld are stolen works from other websites, such as Something Awful, Fark, Newgrounds, etc. besides, Newgrounds can take out Ebaums alone...
January 8th, 2006
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why was i banned? a lot of the ebaumsworld related sites don't work on my account. is it just me, because i've done nothing wrong to my knowledge
January 8th, 2006
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So is the war over now?
January 8th, 2006
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if all of the ebaums supporters are like youngster we will win this war
January 8th, 2006
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omg this is going to lead to the destruction of the internet as we know it...
January 8th, 2006
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the forums are now filled with sh*tty frontpagers. Ebaums pwned us
January 8th, 2006
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My YTMND was deleted, but it was the phone number, and THATS legal, because anyone can get it via Whois.
January 8th, 2006
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http://content.ytmnd.com/content/1/b/1bd1942231d5084ef110ff32d30f88a3.gif anyone know what this is from??!!
January 8th, 2006
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If anything, its going to lead to a Яevolution!
January 8th, 2006
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Vive' YTMND!
January 8th, 2006
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Max, will this effect my t-shirt that you refuse to send? Will it slow the process of you not replying to my emails?
January 8th, 2006
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LOL, 5 stars if this was a ytmnd
January 8th, 2006
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I would of thought the creator of a site that is ytmnd would be more...how can i say...immature, but it seems Max is really looking out for the site and the long term issues that don't occur to us when when we wage war. Ahwell time to get back to DDoSing....I'M JOWKIN'
January 8th, 2006
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interesting....
January 8th, 2006
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Is "The Raid" still going on? I missed it, didn't I?
January 8th, 2006
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we arent doing anything by posting these ebaums sucks sites(dont get me wrong i like em) they just go straight 4 the forums
January 8th, 2006
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Ebaumsworld, will soon be a thing in a past. When people find the true source of the content that ebaum takes, Eric will be screwed.
January 8th, 2006
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No one answered my question! Is "The Raid" still going on? I want to spam eBaumsworld.com!
January 8th, 2006
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Then I'll go start spamming them! Wish me luck! I'll try to recruit some allies from the .:keron:. forums!
January 8th, 2006
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uh i have been a way for a little bit can sombody inform me what the battle was about
January 8th, 2006
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I'm waiting for the mods to activate my account. Jim Cramer is on the way!
January 8th, 2006
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Rock on, YTMND.
January 8th, 2006
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I just e-mail bombed them. Ku ku ku, they'll be pissed.
January 8th, 2006
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400
January 8th, 2006
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They make take our ytmnds, but they will never take our FREEDOM!!!
January 8th, 2006
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phatt-matt: ebaum stole lindsay lohan and then he stole picard.
January 8th, 2006
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so is the DDoS thing illegal?
January 8th, 2006
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let the courts settle this mess, you users of YTMND and Ebaumsworld aren't helping this, you're actually acting like kamikaze's. Destroying the site we care about by acting like morons on ebaumsworld won't help YTMND now will it? please let Max and Eric, and Newgrounds, and gamespot, and all other affiliates handle this
January 8th, 2006
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you know that deep down inside of you max, you really want to kill ebaumsworld
January 8th, 2006
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what does gamestop have to do with this?
January 8th, 2006
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Yeah, Max, it is petty. I wish that people would see that, because the stupid "facial expressions" has been around forever. What difference does it make if it's on Ebaums?
January 8th, 2006
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If ebaum makes a facial expresion thing, they can go right ahead, but it's the fact that they took it rather than make it that makes it wrong
January 8th, 2006
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Don't f*ck with Ytmnd, you're messing with the invincible. And AOL and Ebaum should marry each other.
January 8th, 2006
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max has scary red text
January 8th, 2006
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who doesnt?
January 8th, 2006
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It's the text of Lucifer.
January 8th, 2006
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whats on the forums is sickening, and its all thanks to you half-witted rebellions that thought stealing a stupid little gif and a stupid song was a call out for war. Thanks YTMND rebels, good job. FISSION MAILED
January 8th, 2006
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w00t ! we won ! f*ck ebaum!
January 8th, 2006
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used to think ebaums sucked major ass, now i know i was right all along...
January 8th, 2006
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we didn't we, we are about to hit the biggest sh*t storm of our lives
January 8th, 2006
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Won, the wars we have
January 8th, 2006
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DOWN WITH EBAUM!!!
January 8th, 2006
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expect the 1 stars from the ebaumers :P thats what i prophesize anyway...
January 8th, 2006
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i can't argue with you, your the man
January 8th, 2006
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Hozkinz, your prophecy is comming true already which sucks. I gotta downvote all the ebaumers.
January 8th, 2006
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damn straight... i dont give a sh*t mind, all of mine are close to 1 anyway, lol :P its just the fellow ytmnd-ers that im worried about...
January 8th, 2006
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hmmm iread the word outsource in a comment, lets outsource and have chinese ppl payed a bowl of rice a day make 6000 ytmnds a day
January 8th, 2006
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You know EBaum and his damn lawyers will probably sue and shut this site down.
January 8th, 2006
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if that happens... other sites will form... ytmnd clone... just like the olden ytmnds...
January 8th, 2006
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just found an easter egg :P... hover ur mouse over the ebaums world words above... the linkll take u to ebaumsworldsucks.com :P
January 8th, 2006
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plus, ebaumers takes u to wikipedia's homosexual site :P
January 8th, 2006
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Oh, REAL f*cking mature. If you link to a ytmnd on the forums, it redirects you to the lohan image.
January 8th, 2006
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listen gamepro, go f*ck off and die, and while ur at it, give my sites 1's, infact, everyone give my site 1's... oh btw... theres always tinyurl.com which ppl use to hide links :P
January 8th, 2006
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Haha! This is officially the funniest internet collaboration ever. Full-scale eWar. Well done everyone.
January 8th, 2006
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go to tinyurl.com and hide ur links and spam ebaums forums...
January 8th, 2006
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yeh, and thats why im supporting it in its cause u f*cking nubberised peice of dog shat
January 8th, 2006
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Victory is ours, they just dont know it!
January 8th, 2006
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can we get some mods in that forum or what?
January 8th, 2006
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Hozkinz STFU, none of this needed to happen, yall nerd rebels need to get a life
January 8th, 2006
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Firstwolfwood is an ebaumer... http://ytmnd.com/users/profile/92818
January 8th, 2006
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AGAIN http://spikedhumor.ytmnd.com/
January 8th, 2006
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hell no I'm not, but you all are acting childish. stop acting your own age you 12 year olds
January 8th, 2006
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if they dont take it off do we raid them?
January 8th, 2006
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When are they taking Lindsay down?!
January 8th, 2006
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yeh :? so y do u give a f*ck wtf is happening here then?
January 8th, 2006
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some one ask them
January 8th, 2006
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this is exactly how it happens, I've seen this on many good website, theres a fight, you idiots attack, and slowly you eat away whats left of this good website. Fission Mailed
January 8th, 2006
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still didnt answer my question... i mean, its not like ur an active member here... 3 ratings (all 1 stars) and 1 site saying stop the war? go die
January 8th, 2006
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I'll tell them to take it down
January 8th, 2006
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Hmmm just because I don't make YTMND's doesn't mean I don't watch them, I'm a big fan, If you want me to see from your point of view, take you head out of your ass.
January 8th, 2006
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u do that :P
January 8th, 2006
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lol, meant that comment for IDONTCARE :P
January 8th, 2006
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YTMND and the rest FTW. We should get 4Chan to post d*ckgirl hentai all over Ebaum's World Forums :P
January 8th, 2006
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never actually been to 4chan... any good?
January 8th, 2006
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forums.ebaumsworld.com redirects to a ytmnd profile. YTMND has breached the south wall. Raiders win. gg
January 8th, 2006
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YTMND forever! Tyrany cannot defeat us!
January 8th, 2006
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anyone else notice how the link to the forums on ebaums takes you to the lohan pic?
January 8th, 2006
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HUMILIATION
January 8th, 2006
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if you can imagine something a thousand times more offensive than ytmnd, that is somewhat close to what 4chan is
January 8th, 2006
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holy sh*t, then why aint i there? whats the url?
January 8th, 2006
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i'm PRETTY sure we won
January 8th, 2006
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lol this isn't a chatroom. What these f*ckers don't get is that the _____ doesn't change facial expressions came from THIS f*ckING SITE. It's been a fad that I've hated for weeks now, and now it's become the center of a detestable "war". We don't own the pictures OR the music, but the IDEA belongs to us collectively (so long as the ACTUAL creator feels that way). We should get the traffic that this kind of attention would bring, and that's why we (as a group, now) hate ebaums. I hate ebaums as much as teh next person, but why add fuel to the fire? lol another joke. Though I think it's f*cking awesome that there was a multi-forum strong alliance that rose up in the wake of it. Glad to see that people will sit down and fight when needed. In short, go back to making ytmnds that are funny, and let karma decide who the *sshole is.
January 8th, 2006
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LOOK AT CHIPMUNK GANGSTAZ RATE IT!!!!
January 8th, 2006
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well I'll be damned, we broke the first line of defense, maybe I was wrong, maybe we can do this.
January 8th, 2006
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The creator did not want eBaum's Perverse World stealing from their idea and work, just check lohanfacial.ytmnd.com. I hate to plug, but I will forever be against eBaum's World: unclesean.ytmnd.com
January 8th, 2006
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yes my screename is awsumly awsum
January 8th, 2006
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I just got banned from #ytmnd. In general, most bans that I have seen on the Internet are due to people not reading and following the rules. However, I was banned immediately after I tried to read the rules myself. What gives?
January 8th, 2006
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YTMND FOR THE WIN, EBAUMS LOOT, YTMND SHOOT
January 8th, 2006
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and to think..this all happened within 24 hours.
January 8th, 2006
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You know, I thought of the perfect cease-fire: Ebaum should add us to the 'great sites' section of his menu. At least then, even if not directly, we're given some credit. Like that will EVER happen.
January 8th, 2006
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uhh yeah i think we won lol. gg. teh hax war is teh on.
January 8th, 2006
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everyone click my name and look at the chipmunk gangstaz and rate it youll love it!!!!
January 8th, 2006
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Have any of you seen the Hacks that have gone down on the ebaumsworld forums? Ebaums = Fail.
January 8th, 2006
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Glory to YTMND!
January 8th, 2006
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this isn't just about Lindsay Lohan... this is about something bigger... much much much bigger... this is about the INTERNET!
January 8th, 2006
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omg, thats why i get an 'error' msg when i try to enter ebaumsworld's forums. :X
January 8th, 2006
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I come in peace, and that's to ask: why? What did the people at the forum do (one of which created the original Lohan YTMND) do to you? I was gonna remain silent throughout this, but you hacking the forums crossed the line and you know it. Good work. You've officially screwed yourselves.
January 8th, 2006
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I believe their forum server was JUST erased.
January 8th, 2006
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Victory
January 8th, 2006
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I guess Max now knows how Edward Norton felt at the end of Fight Club with all his little Space Monkeys running around out of his control
January 8th, 2006
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screw ebaum, he steals every good thing on the internet as his own
January 8th, 2006
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ytmnd ftw
January 8th, 2006
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www.ebaumsworld.com/forum Check for yourself, I see no page keeping me from viewing the forum because a mod hasn't reviewed my account. There is no forum to view.
January 8th, 2006
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What'd you guys accomplish by attacking a forum of thousands of people that have absolutely nothing at all to do with what eBaum does? Immaturity? If that's the goal, then yes. You've succeeded.
January 8th, 2006
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Er, why do I remember that whole "facial expressions" thing on AlbinoBlackSheep, LONG before anyone made a YTMND of it? The YTMND was http://girlface2.ytmnd.com and the flash was the same exact thing, same music and all. So... wouldn't that mean someone stole that from ABS?
January 8th, 2006
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Note that we didn't watermark it.
January 8th, 2006
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Fellow YTMND'ers, from this day forward, I say we officially declare January 8 YTMND day.
January 8th, 2006
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But by being on his forum and posting there they are obviously supporting the man
January 8th, 2006
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Ah... alright, that makes sense now. By the way, the original flash had different music, but here it is, just for kicks: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/face
January 8th, 2006
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By posting on the forum, they are supporting eBaum? Good logic, considering more than half of the members don't know eBaum steals. That's like saying by being an American, we all support Bush. People go to that forum because it's popular it's a fun discussion place with many other members. Not because they support eBaum. Grow up guys, and try to comprehend what your goal in all of this is, if even one arises.
January 8th, 2006
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"But by being on his forum and posting there they are obviously supporting the man" Untrue. Not entirely, though. But mostly. I mean, there's all sorts of forums out there. We could be at somethingawful, but have to pay money to join, or join the legions of nerds at any WoW site, but we don't. eBaums is the best forum we've discovered; it's filled with funny posters that we enjoy seeing in action and because it's an official forum, we won't (or don't have to)worry about having it shut down prematurely. Besides, we all agreed that the YTMND forums just weren't that great.
January 8th, 2006
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May eBaum's world perish in it's stealing!
January 8th, 2006
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Koolaidman got it in a nutshell "I guess Max now knows how Edward Norton felt at the end of Fight Club with all his little Space Monkeys running around out of his control"
January 8th, 2006
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Okay, now I have to ask: what do you guys "win" anyway? Even if eBaums has gone down, what good does that do? Does all of his money suddenly go to you? Do the heavens open up and take all the sinners away? Does YTMND become the new "king of the Internet?" I mean, if you can't come up with something other than "we got the bastard!" then what's the point?
January 8th, 2006
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It really won't matter in the long run how many times EBaumsWorld.com is taken down - the thing that'll kill it is its poor and unoriginal content.
January 8th, 2006
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Jackrabbitsd87, even though the raid didn't seem to accomplish anything permanent, it accomplished exactly what a DDoS attack is good for: shaking a website's reliability and diminishing the consumers' confidence in the product. Not too shabby for a relatively small-scale attack.
January 8th, 2006
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i can't believe Ebaumsworld even has regular forum posters. The entire site is a f*glaming collection of OFN
January 8th, 2006
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and by removing such an "unreliable" site from the competition, it'll allow other "more deserving" sites to thrive? Is that the idea?
January 8th, 2006
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No, the idea is that the user no longer believes that the product is worth the trouble of getting anymore. It's damned near impossible to measure the efficiency at which this happens, but it does happen.
January 8th, 2006
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Ytmnd forums are of a different breed. Their brand of vile humor guaranteed 1 good laugh per visit. Plenty of times has it been more entertaining than the front site. The same can not be said of ebaum's forums, what with the stringent moderating going on. I'm not saying it wasn't entertaining, but the ultimate goal was not a good laugh through AOLer actions/behavior. Of course, this is not everyone's taste... In any case, it's funny as hell that they are down again. Don't forget that we came to these sites to laugh in the first place.
January 8th, 2006
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We've been through worse.
January 8th, 2006
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So, destroying Bauman's ability to obtain ads therefore puts his site in jeopardy. Right? I'm just trying to not get lost here.
January 8th, 2006
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If his site doesn't get as many hits per day, he'll generate less revenue from ads and be forced to downprice. Eventually, this spirals downwards towards a site's final doom. I doubt this will happen to EBaumsWorld, but it happens to many sites, regardless of how good they are.
January 8th, 2006
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I agree with Blackeye. There will be some serious repercussions not too far down the road, although our warriors did pull off a good job. I wouldn't start celebrating too soon. But this little incident does go to show how much of a powerful tool the internet can be. It's funny that YTMND isn't the only anti-ebaum site. SomethingAwful.com doesn't like ebaumsworld either. So in a way... WATMND (We're all the man now, dog). Just brace yourselves for the eventual backlash. Hail Max.
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For example, if max had problems with getting people to visit YTMND, he'd probably have to charge less for the advertisements he puts on the site or else lose advertisement revenue altogether. Once that happens, max would have less money to buy new servers and maintain the current ones, among other things. He may be forced to get a job (not sure if he has one now aside from maintaining YTMND), spend less time maintaining the site and whatnot. This leads to even less hits and eventually just becomes an unprofitable mess. The final solution: deletion.
January 8th, 2006
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So say, like the lemon demon song, eBaum has his dumb website erased. I'm sure that'll be satisfying. But again, why the forums? What was the point of attacking the forums when the main site was the target? Even if it's the most popular feature, that doesn't make it right to destroy it. There's no real way to justify the actions here.
January 8th, 2006
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call it being in the heat of passion? We can get away with that. In a jury of our peers...
January 8th, 2006
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I'm not arguing the fact that you guys believe eBaum should be taken down. That part I kinda get, even though you're blowing things out of proportion. And in reality, my words here don't mean much anyway. Hell, even "The Raid" of the forums wasn't THAT bad (very entertaining, really). But the moment you officially went in and hacked the place, well, that was just rediculous. And all because of a gif that really wasn't all that funny to begin with? Keep in mind, it's not like eBaum goes to YTMND and just picks out what he likes. Most, if not all of his content is submitted through emails. So that means that someone saw the site, sent the image to eBaum, eBaum liked it and posted it on his site (without any special treatment; it got watermarked just like everything else). and besides, as said time and time again, "hosted on" doesn't mean "created by." It's easy to get confused, but that doesn't make it a lie.
January 8th, 2006
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Yeah, and Linday Lohan was taken from a previous non-changing face ytmnd.
January 8th, 2006
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I wouldn't say anything about the raid was justified. It was, as Max put best, "over something so petty." Still, I would say that it did accomplish something, even if that something is immeasurable.
January 8th, 2006
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well the people at somethingawful have had stuff stolen from their site, put on ebaumsworld, and have tried getting it removed but it gets ignored.
January 8th, 2006
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The point of this whole war is that Eric has gone too far. Keep in mind that the Lindsey Lohan ytmnd is not the only thing that was blatantly stolen without permission or consent of any kind. This has been going on for a while now, but this is the first time that something has been so obviously ripped straight from YTMND, and because 99% of the material on this site comes from random, internet-browsing people with ideas, there is a more tightly-knit community here than is present on other sites which Eric has stolen from. He made a bad move by stealing from YTMND. I'm sure that many who are participating in this war do so with the intention of sending a message to Eric: that this has got to stop, that this is what happens when your content-stealing goes too far: someone is bound to retaliate.
January 8th, 2006
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In this case, the only thing that most YTMND members can do is over-ping his site and spam his forums until they go down (which they have). To those of you who just enjoy ebaum's world for the community that is present there: sorry to say it, but you are no more than casualties of war. Whether you realize it or not, you are supporting Eric by regularly visiting his site and posting on his forums, and you will be percieved as such. As in any war, there is no right or wrong, just two different opinions. The goal of this war is to spread awareness of the underhanded methods by which Eric does business, and to put a stop to it, whether it be by his decision, or by forcibly hacking and bringing down his entire site (which may very well happen if this war goes on very much longer or escalates).
January 8th, 2006
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"hosted on", "created by", it doesn't make a difference. Ebaumsworld is on it, and so they will get the credit, no matter what the intentions are. They will get that traffic.
January 8th, 2006
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The last thing we want to do is forcibly hack this guy, as he does have those male prostitutes dressed as lawyers :P Seriously, we gotta find some way of nailing him but how?
January 8th, 2006
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so what other sites besides ytmnd and somethingawful has content been stolen from?
January 8th, 2006
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http://www.ebaumsworld.com/flash/flashloops.html So where were you when those came out? Seriously, the Lohan gif wasn't that big a deal, was it?
January 8th, 2006
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I think a more practical use of time and server space would be to directly counter EBaumsWorld with another website (NotEBW, for example). Steal content directly from EBaumsWorld, discern its source location and post it in similar format with the EBW watermark overlaid with a "created by" watermark. Sell ads, sell *ss and make cash off of something that EBaumsWorld actually does rather poorly. It'd take money, but it'd be a direct way to criticize EBaumsWorld legally and effectively.
January 8th, 2006
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I've never been here b4, but I am a frequent @ ebaums, and just wanted to say that anything that happened at least on my part is terrible, but on the same hand probably going to happen. My question is how u know it was bauman who wrecked your site? What if it was someone trying to plan the whole thing knowing a retaliation against ebaums was gonna happen. I didn't even know about YMNTD until this whole thing happened, but anyways, I don't think this site is going to last, as i'm sure there are currently people trying to hack this site. It's just so sad that two sites are going to be destroyed over an argument with a small few.
January 8th, 2006
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Again, it's no so much the idea of a ytmnd that is the problem, or that any ytmnd is 'original work', but it's the idea that spawns these sites that gets people worked up. It could have been anything that was a fad here, not just lohan or picard.
January 8th, 2006
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To say that "hosted on" and "created by" doesn't make a difference is ignoring the point. No matter how much you argue it, never, even in the slightest form of technicality does eBaum claim that he made the content. You can't argue it. Look it up in every dictionary, and you will find that the definitions don't match.
January 8th, 2006
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You are right that the definitions don't match, but you are ignoring the point. Ebaums World gets the credit, thus attracting more traffic. Whatever someone else told you the problem was, forget it. The problem is that ytmnd will benifit none from it (in the form of traffic), whereas ebaumsworld WILL get more traffic.
January 8th, 2006
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Lohan was never one of the greatest fads of YTMND anyway. Picard I would understand, but let's face it: "so and so doesn't change facial expressions" was two things. It was unoriginal, as animations like that have been around forever. but not only that, it wasn't even that great to begin with (with the exception of Han Solo, but that's because it bent the rules).
January 8th, 2006
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Less traffic to YTMND.com = quicker load times!
January 8th, 2006
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I'll agree with you on that, Jacrabbitsd87, but the thing that bothers me is how EBaumsWorld gets their content. On their main page, they announce that they are looking for "original content" to host on their website. Nothing's wrong with that as long as a user doesn't steal someone else's content and sell it to be hosted on EBW. By not taking this stolen content down when the creator requests it to be, EBW is being an accessory to a crime. And as Sonic put best, "That's no good." I wouldn't give a rat's *ss if EBW took down stolen content rather than continue hosting it illegally.
January 8th, 2006
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But, even if it does give eBaum more hits, he's still TECHNICALLY not doing anything other than hosting the sites. It's like when a movie says "presented by Quentin Tarantino," causing several people to see the movie because they think the man had something to do with it. It's sneaky, it's slightly dishonest and it's annoying; but there are no rules being broken.
January 8th, 2006
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go nonviolent. sign the petition. http://petition.ytmnd.com
January 8th, 2006
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You don't think this site will last? Only two things in this world are forever, Chuck Norris, and YTMND. And they'll both do some bizarre physics defying throw that sends your *ss into a tree.
January 8th, 2006
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Haha, like Steven Speilberg's Tiny Toon Adventures, Anamaniacs and Freakazoid, eh?
January 8th, 2006
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It's been interesting following this "war" since I found out about it the day after "YTMND-Day" but I must say this is very upsetting to a dedicated YTMND user like myself. Granted the raid was one thing but the hacking just gets ridiculous and I think it is only going to cause all of us who love YTMND a lot of misery in the future from Erik's schemes. If you really want to get rid of his stealing I'd say it's best to gather together everyone who has had content stealing committed against them and to submit a formal complaint of sorts against ebaumsworld. Collectively I'm sure that our resources can get rid of this threat to original content creators everywhere... Regardless I have a bad feeling that dark days might be in store for YTMND with this craziness, Max is a great guy and I'm glad he's clamping down on this because it's bad for all of us who truly love this place. If you really want to help Max and this site stay alive and well, donate money like I've done to help get the new content server!!!
January 8th, 2006
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I don't want ebaums banned either, if he were to give credit to the original artists, would you guys be this upset?
January 8th, 2006
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I agree with you that the facial expression fad was not that great. However, whoever put that together might prefer that the traffic go to the site that it was submitted to. I cannot speak for everyone, but if it hadn't been watermarked, I doubt that this large of a fuss would have been made. We all just wanted a laugh, anyway.
January 8th, 2006
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lol Touche. But convince the hordes of that? I doubt it.
January 8th, 2006
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I, for one, would be, shakezula. I want to see EBaumsWorld create a policy where they follow the f*cking law. Taking down stolen content when the creator requests it to be, or when they know it's stolen would be a good start.
January 8th, 2006
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see the great thing about ebaum's is the array of stuff they have to offer, though I mostly lurk around the forums, but seriously I wish these sites could come to some sort of deal that would allow ebaum to take property granted he pay before hand.
January 8th, 2006
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"I cannot speak for everyone, but if it hadn't been watermarked, I doubt that this large of a fuss would have been made." That is what's truly bothering me. I'm thinking the same thing. And that just shows how hypocritical YTMND was in that reason. The whole "purpose" of this "war" becomes even more lost when you realize that YTMND is only out to help itself, isn't it?
January 8th, 2006
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ive been a loyal viewer of this site,for almost a year, i never posted anything, but watched. always a quiet viewer but the events od that faithful night forced me to speak up. and i cant say how proud i am to be a part of this. f*ck ebaums. ytmnd ftw.
January 8th, 2006
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That wouldn't be bad, shakezula. Except for one thing: it's already in place. Bauman (it seems) has a policy to pay for people to submit original content. Unfortunately, lately much content has been stolen without the creator's permission. Well-intentioned or not, EBW has violated the law in several ways.
January 8th, 2006
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In regards to RavenWolf87, all I know is that SomethingAwful has stuff stolen as well. I don't know of any other sites, though i'd imagine addictinggames has had their content taken.
January 8th, 2006
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FCC should shut down ebaums world =o
January 8th, 2006
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There's a lot of things that "should" happen. Politicians shouldn't lie. People shouldn't kill each other. Criminals shouldn't commit crimes. People should be able to trust each other. Nice thoughts, but not very realistic.
January 8th, 2006
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The internet is serious, SERIOUS, business. ESPECIALLY when it comes to various pictures of linday lohans face.
January 8th, 2006
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We will defend Lindsay Lohan to the death. Seriously... hawt.
January 8th, 2006
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Watermarkgate. lol sorry couldn't resist. Anyway, you are right. This IS about YTMND. Traffic is the lifeblood of any website. Agreeing with you on all points, realize that this is the only response we're capable of. That doesn't make it right, but how can it be stopped? Both sites have made me laugh, this is true, but YTMND is not as well known as EBW. We would like to see the site grow, for Max's sake, as well as this twisted brand of humor that we have come to embrace. While I'm with Max in not condoning what's happened to the forums there (or anything on the site in general), I would like to see credit given where it's due. But since it won't happen, it's really a moot point. I'm content to enjoy the show. In a week or two, this will be nothing more than a funny little memory.
January 8th, 2006
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You know the really sad part about all this? Lohan isn't even hot anymore...:(
January 8th, 2006
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dont we even have more members than ebums world? not counting all the fake accounts created on their server like "ebaums rapes kids" or whatever
January 8th, 2006
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More important: Does Lindsay Lohan even know that she's caused a WAR on the INTERNET? Does AL GORE know that HIS INTERNET is being used to wage WAR?!
January 8th, 2006
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"2006-01-08 23:07:28 Jackrabbitsd87 You know the really sad part about all this? Lohan isn't even hot anymore...:( " take that back you liar.
January 8th, 2006
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ebaums is teh n00b and teh noobz got pwned
January 8th, 2006
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Damnit, Jackrabbitsd87, why'd you have to ruin it for me?
January 8th, 2006
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It's a PUBLICITY STUNT FOR LOHAN. WE HAVE ALL BEEN DECIEVED!!!1!!
January 8th, 2006
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Lindsay Lohan is a virgin to the horrors of the internet. It's best things stay that way.
January 8th, 2006
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No, Jack really IS right this time. I never once thought about attractiveness during all of this. That's one for the LJ.
January 8th, 2006
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Newgrounds has supplied its users with an anti-ebaum script to protect their stuff from his site: http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic.php?id=380167
January 8th, 2006
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I disagree with what eric bauman does too but i don't go around spamming the ebaums forums or making ytmnd's saying they are pwned and putting nasty pictures. This should all just stop or ytmnd will be targeted because ebaums probably has more fans than ytmnd thefore they can do more damage
January 8th, 2006
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lohan isnt a virgin, i took her virginity.pwned.
January 8th, 2006
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You... you showed her the internets? YOU SON OF A BITCH!
January 8th, 2006
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Oh well, Lohan's done for. So, who else is hot now?
January 8th, 2006
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Let's go after Alba
January 8th, 2006
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I saw Sin City last night. Alba's pretty hot. But that was with heavy camera effects, so I don't know if that's for real or not.
January 8th, 2006
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its always a magical time giving a girl her first time....hell i remember my first time...back when i was a little nooblet. anyway, i think that chick jackie from "that 70s show" is pretty damn hot
January 8th, 2006
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Niatona, if you're around, drop me a line (sorry guys for spamming).
January 8th, 2006
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Yeah! Mila Kunis! Let's wage a war for her honor now!
January 8th, 2006
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We attack at dawn!
January 8th, 2006
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the king will help us. if we have him on our side, we cannot lose.
January 8th, 2006
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Any word from General Norris?
January 8th, 2006
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Excellent. I'll lead a platoon of our men-now-dogs around the enemy encampment and enter their site from an admin point. Wait for my signal.
January 8th, 2006
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No word from General Norris yet. He's still fighting the good fight on the ebaum pages.
January 8th, 2006
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i will lead a company of snipers along the ridge. itll be just like my halo days, only now im fighting for something.
January 8th, 2006
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I wonder what the nets equivalent of patriotism is. Teen spirit?
January 8th, 2006
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You guys wanna hurt ebaum? Use adblock to get rid of all the ads, then repeatedly download the site's largest content. Be sure to turn off your cache for maximum impact.
January 8th, 2006
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pm me jimmyjamesbobx
January 8th, 2006
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fine, AIM me, blkphantom1186, ne1 from this place, IM me ^^
January 8th, 2006
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lol E-bombed.
January 8th, 2006
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CJayC and the mods REALLY don't want GameFAQers a part of this, even the NEWS topic on Random Insanity which said nothing about organizing an effort for GameFAQers to attack, just had news and speculation, got deleted. The 4 locked ones that had hit 500 (or 501 or 502) got deleted prematurely as well.
January 8th, 2006
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LMFAO EBAUMS LOOTED A LOHAN! HES BLACK! SO BUSH DONT CARE ABOUT HIM!
January 8th, 2006
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Well, I think I've said everything that I can. I bid you YTMNDers farewell for now. I will continue to contribute to this site, but only if the Anti-eBaums sites dwindle down and things can return to normal. You boys have had your fun. But try not to pull this sh*t again, please. Good day, sirs!
January 8th, 2006
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please get a life...
January 8th, 2006
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oh, and btw. This is still the Internet. "Get a life" doesn't work.
January 8th, 2006
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oh god, the activity on the ebaum chatroom is hilarious.
January 8th, 2006
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from the ebaum forums "There seems to have been a problem with the database. Please try again by clicking the Refresh button in your web browser. An E-Mail has been dispatched to our Technical Staff, whom you can also contact if the problem persists. We apologise for any inconvenience." what did I miss????
January 8th, 2006
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so how can i, a computer noob, reign death and destrreuction upon ebaum?
January 8th, 2006
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"Ebaum" is now a censored word on GameFAQs. -.-
January 9th, 2006
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I've never advertised my site in a comment before today, but given the circumstances, I'm gonna ask you guys to go here: http://baumanshost.ytmnd.com/
January 9th, 2006
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If you want him to go down, forum raids and ping attacks are not the way to go. Contact his host. Someone slashdot the story. Flaming him isn't going to change anything.
January 9th, 2006
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If you're all really serious about wanting eBaum offline, then start hitting him where it hurts. Spread the word. Make his theft more public than it already is. Email the sites that advertise on his site. Start doing more than just throwing around insults
January 9th, 2006
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I made an anti-ebaum coalition with connery, and the founders of somethingawful and newgrounds (both avid anti-ebaumers). Check it out: http://ebaumcoalition.ytmnd.com/ General Norris isn't in the background because he's still fighting the good fight.
January 9th, 2006
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I'm going to figure out some way to do my part. Without doing anything illegal of course, but it will still be a shot in this little war.
January 9th, 2006
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why would gamefaqs censor ebaum?
January 9th, 2006
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If you're ever on GameFAQs, Pine is the word being substituted for Ebaum, at least right now.
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