the sun is still

In an attempt to keep you all up-to-date with the inner workings of YTMND, I'm going to try and update a little more often. Rather than trying to convince you that I'm working, I'll just publish my results, regardless of how boring they may be to you.

I want to thank everyone who provided feedback on the TODO. I really enjoy reading constructive criticisms and ideas, even if I'm not directly responding to all of it. I want to open a discussion on a couple of topics with this news post, so read more if you are inclined.


So first off:

<technical junk/what I've been up to>



I've migrated all of the database servers over to the latest version of MySQL, which seems to have not only gone pretty smoothly, but also removed a lot of the headaches. Hopefully they should have less hiccups, which means you should see "vote lag" issues less often. While I was at it, I did a good deal of database cleanup, but there are some more major structural changes that require large modifications to the site that I'm doing on a test setup first.

I've also spent the last week migrating the hundreds of files that compose YTMND into SVN (from 3 old CVS repositories). This was a lot of work, because it involved figuring out how I renamed and moved files around for the last 4 years. I found some gems from the past in there too!

Now that everything is in SVN I am beginning the large refactoring that I've wanted to do for a long time. This is a pretty lengthy list of things I need to do in order to get the site's structure and codebase the way I want it. One of the major benefits of this is it will make the site much easier to work on, meaning adding little features and fixes will happen much more often. It also means I can start thinking about opening up the code base to developers that want to add patches or really work on YTMND.

The refactoring is extensive and effects almost every page on the site, as such, I'm going to take the time to split out theme specific stuff to external templates where I haven't in the past. Since I'm doing this, I've sent out a request for new YTMND designs/layouts to a bunch of designers, I've given them 2 weeks at which point I'm going to post them here and let you guys decide which you like best. I haven't figured out how much work the templating will be, but it's possible that the refactoring will include choosable "themes", it might even be possible to get the old design in if someone is willing to do the grunt work. If any of you are serious designers and want to take a shot at it, send me a private message. It is (poorly) paid work.

It is likely while I'm in there I'll make a lot of little fixes and feature enhancements, as well as introducing a plethora of new bugs. Hopefully a few of you will step up and be willing to test everything when it needs it. Anyway, you know how much I like pretty graphs so here is one for you:


You'll notice that I very rarely committed code in the past (and there was a ton of code that wasn't even in the repository until now). With SVN, it means I can update much more frequently without messing up the site, so I am pleased to finally stop "shitting where I eat" as it were. That all being said, due to the significant back end changes required, the site is currently on a semi-lockdown for new features/fixes until I move the production servers over to be mirrors of the SVN repositories. So don't expect much to change in that department for a couple weeks.

<end of technical junk/what I've been up to>




Stuff you should care about but won't: (i.e. feedback needed)



The hall of fame


As most of you know the hall of fame (even pre-neomatrix additions) was filled with a lot of undeserving sites and didn't really make much sense. I've been mulling over how to actually repopulate it with proper sites that really deserve attention, but I keep coming back to the community nature of this site. On one hand, most of the site is governed by "majority vote", top rated, top viewed, top etc etc. On the other hand, the site is more than just "mine", so picking the hall of fame entries should be a task for more than just myself.

I've thought about various schemes where you could get one Hall of Fame vote for each 3 month period you've been a member or something like that, but I wanted to hear from you guys how you think the Hall of Fame should be populated. I want it to be filled with not only the best sites, but the most significant, historical, and most importantly, the most creative sites out there. This is the page that most newcomers will look at, so it is really important that we show them not only the best and the brightest, but a summary of what YTMND is.

So how do you think we should do this? Should I just sit down for a few days and go through as much as I can and pick them and then write a little blurb about each? Should I let the super moderators pick as well? Featured users? Everybody? Possibly allow everyone to vote as a suggestion mechanism only, just so I don't miss anything? Your feedback would be greatly appreciated!

Rules and Moderation


As I mentioned in the last news post, a moderation system is built on rules, and without clearly defined rules the moderation system is bound to fail. I know the whole TODO is a lot for most of you to process, and some of you focused on that bit, but this is necessary to discuss before I proceed. We, as a community, have to come up with a concise and clear list of rules that the community as a whole have to abide by. So:

    Reading material:
  • Rules / Moderation Guidelines / Global Policy

  • Global Permissions (a foundation for possible punishments)


  • What you can do to help:
  • Add to the list of behaviors that should be considered as "bad"
  • Discuss the "pros" and "cons" of certain behaviors and if they should be considered "bad"
  • Discuss possible punishments for each behavior
  • Discuss what the overall focus of user moderation should be, or which areas should be the most important
  • Discuss what to do about repeat offenders/trolls, at what point do we delete people?

  • What you can do to help if you (are an over-achiever/love the site/are trying to brown-nose):
  • Come up with a full list of behaviors and consequential punishments for each.
  • Write a community guidelines document that can be shown to new users.
  • Fucking participate for once



This is something that must have community backing and support and it requires serious discussion. As I said before, I can't (and refuse) to do this alone, so I will keep posting it until I either get the feedback I'm looking for or get sick of the site and go get a real job.


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January 11th, 2008
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I always wanted categories of nsfw, such as bad words, ear rape, and nudity. I wear headphones so I normally just ignore the (nsfw) mark and sometimes I get a site with nudity and I quickly close out of it and hope no one saw it.
January 11th, 2008
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Anyways my new voat comment method. #1 Thank you for contributing to ytmnd's longevity. #2 Waste of Bandwidth. #3 Thank you for contributing to hrmm I dunno ermmm HMM i Dunno HMM f*ck it #4 Waste of Bandwidth. (seriously what the f*ck were you excpecting?) #5 Obvious alt is obvious (but he isn't featured so who cares!!!) The five levels of POS votes
January 12th, 2008
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About the Hall of Fame, you could have sites that meet certain criteria (age/rating/views/votes/etc.) have an option to be nominated for the HoF. Then, either sites with X number of votes with/or after X amount of time can be added, or sites that make it onto the list of HoF noms can be put on a poll or ballot for users to vote on.
January 12th, 2008
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Max, are you getting the type of information you wanted? Have you found a good portion of the news articles productive (well the parts about Fourest isn't). Is this helping any? I want to know. You want feedback, but you aren't always good at providing it yourself.
January 12th, 2008
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Hey Max, I have an idea regarding donations. How about anyone who has donated a certain amount has more powers over the interactive elements of YTMND? Like, maybe not weighted site voting, but more comment upvoting/downvoting. The ability to DELETE COMMENTS for those who have donated a certain amount. And it would really be cool if your Sponsorships This Week page would show the top users that have donated money "of all time." I'm curious to see what that looks like.
January 12th, 2008
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Also, I can guarantee you that I would sponsor more sites if I wasn't so sure the "NSFW" tag would prevent them from getting any front page views. I know you have reasons related to the site's image/advertising that prevent you from displaying NSFW material indefinitely, but maybe you could change the default account setting to "display NSFW content?" Or prompt people when they create accounts? That way people who are logged in would be aware of NSFW content, but first-time visitors would not.
January 12th, 2008
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Every time I sponsor a site, it gets NSFW'd
January 14th, 2008
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you just say this because you've donated a sh*t-load of money
January 15th, 2008
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Making all NSFW sponsored sites visible on the main page even when the "hide all NSFW content" option is turned off is a great idea. It's been done with sites on the Most Voted This Week section, and I think sponsored sites must deserve it. As for granting powers to people who sponsor a lot, max is already considering this, I believe. I think he's going to give some benefits to people that have sponsored at least $15 or something.
January 15th, 2008
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I dunno what those benefits would entail, but I'm sure they would cause some random downvoters to target them inexplicably! Seriously though, I'm sure that people would donate more if max added either one or both of those two features. (NSFW sponsored sites on main page and benefits for donators)
January 17th, 2008
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Indeed. It's criminal that Funny Giraffe Song isn't getting the exposure it deserves.
January 17th, 2008
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To be honest, I think the disabling of NSFW content is contributing to the overall lameness of YTMND at present. One of the things YTMND used to have going for it was that you could find a lot of really unwholesome humour here. I mean, YTMND took better advantage of the Michael Richards thing, for example, than any other internet humour community, but there's no way we could have done it if things were the way they are now.
January 17th, 2008
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Yeah, all those popular nsfw sites like kkkramer and Holy Sh*t a Dinosaur would get nowhere near as many votes and views if they were made today, lol
January 19th, 2008
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I agree, let NSFW sites show up on the front page by default. The bold letters "NSFW" should be an indicator that the site is NOT SAFE FOR WORK!
January 29th, 2008
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Funny Giraffe Song™
January 12th, 2008
498th
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Since nobody likes seeing sites they hate on the front page while preferences from user to user vary, my idea for the front page would be for personal preference to trump site rating. If there's a site on Top Rated, U&C, or Top Viewed, and you vote one or two on it, it should be hidden on your front page as long as you're logged in, with it's spot on Top Rated, U&C, or Top Viewed being taken by whatever was bubbling under the front page. At the same time, someone who wants to see it for a week can do so.
January 13th, 2008
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Actually, this is a really good idea. It would work even better, in my opinion, if everything you voted on was hidden from the front page the moment you voted on it, in favour of what was "bubbling under" as you say. This would make YTMND's front page a lot less boring for people who've already seen everything on U&C.
January 14th, 2008
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these are both really good ideas and I hope max at least sees them
January 13th, 2008
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Lol, revenge downvoter http://www.ytmnd.com/users/JayneZ/votes
January 13th, 2008
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"Meanwhile, user after user who actually contributes to making this place more than just a damn gif dump quits or stops making sites." You mean you don't like the new ytmnd, the fearcondom-fourest-chronster super comedy website?
January 13th, 2008
517th
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YTMND--where the same jokes are told every day until you are forced to like them.
January 13th, 2008
518th
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Where randomly inserting a nostalgia-inducing late 80s/early 90s cartoon/videogame reference into a movie clip is considered the epitome of wit. LOL THAT MARIO CHOMP'S GONNA EAT BUTCH AND SUNDANCE BUT NOT BEFORE MY BUDDY FOR OLD MEN IS PLAYING WITH CLIVE OWEN'S POWER!
January 14th, 2008
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I like Chronster even though his last few sites have been overdone fad ideas and he can't take criticism. Fourest and Fearcondom have five jokes/ideas and are constantly repeating them. LCadwallader and dunspare are good alternatives to J-Man and Pianist.
January 17th, 2008
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Looking at that accounts votes and the only thing they voted low on is hank's and cooke's sites I'm going to have to go out on a limb and somehow say it's related to fourest. Maybe not his account but certainly one of his adoring fans/friends. YTMNCircle Jerk.
January 17th, 2008
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No, he isn't an alt, just an adoring fan of fourest and he had a run in with cooke and hanktherapper being honest to him about how bad his sites are.
January 17th, 2008
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Is this person an alt? http://www.ytmnd.com/users/psonerpg/votes
January 18th, 2008
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yeah
January 18th, 2008
580th
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go on....
January 29th, 2008
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yay my clive owen site got mentioned :) and boy i knew someone was going to have a problem with it. It's okay because I wouldn't want every site to be nintendostalgia either. Anyway, who said it was the epitome of humor? I sure didn't. :P And can you honestly say that sites like clive owen is playing with power are making ytmnd a worse place?
January 29th, 2008
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I suppose it does have the potential to make ytmnd predictable and derivative, but not everyone is just going to jump on the bandwagon of nostalgic material and make them just to get high ratings, right? Right?
January 13th, 2008
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srsly, though. Take my sites off HOF
January 30th, 2008
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i agree!, except for one
January 14th, 2008
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has comment spamming been established? like ones who frequent sites with the same one line comment. i think people like that should perhaps have their commenting ability blocked.
January 14th, 2008
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We're gonna be watching Finding Forrester in World Literature next week. If we had t-shirts I coulda woren mine to school and when sean says you're the man now dog, ill point to my shirt every1 would say "wtf is so good about a quote" and ill smile knowing that i know.
January 15th, 2008
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Speaking of movies, I know this is spam but Ted Danson's gonna be in a new one soon and I feel like we're responsible.
January 15th, 2008
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We built him up. We can tear him down.
January 15th, 2008
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we started watching the movie today. lol sum1 should make an alternate universe called HA5000WOWYSSTFOOMH (How about 5000 words on why you should stay the f*ck out of my house)
January 15th, 2008
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I've seen ppl that use specially designed bots to go around automatically downvoting sites at random. Maybe after so many downvotes a capcha should be entered so it can curb the bot problem.
January 15th, 2008
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I think in spite of their bot-like behaviour, most of the time downvoter accounts are used to increase the competitiveness of the downvoter's alt account. Let's say, for example, money-hat creates a new site that he wants to get on Up and Coming. So, he makes that site, then he logs out of money-hat and logs back in as Qnslaught and starts downvoting everything else on Recently Created so that no new sites even have the slightest chance of getting on Up and Coming. That's how downvoters really work.
January 15th, 2008
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Speaking as a moderator who has access to information about individual users I have noticed that most "downvoters" are not bots and are not even alternate accounts. Sometimes users act the way you two describe in that they are creating extra accounts to both upvote all their own sites to status and downvote other sites to maintain their status, but that isn't as common. The point is that these are real people, not bots, and they simply act like bots, but they can't be stopped the way bots are handled.
January 15th, 2008
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what about that pineapple guy (forgot his name) that got 50,000 5s in like a short time?
January 15th, 2008
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Yeah that pineapple guy used bots back in the time when blind voting and and that "forced voting" thing were possible. Now it's harder to use bots, but apparently it can still be done, as we've seen a couple of months ago with that random tonydanza guy, lol
January 15th, 2008
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Oh btw http://ytmnd.com/sites/profile/738078 is an example of a bug in which the last non-replied comment on the list is getting all these replies that keeps moving down for everytime another person posts a non-replied comment.
January 15th, 2008
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They're just replying to a deleted comment, so now they're floating. I'm not sure if it really is a bug, I think max intended it to do that. Or if he didn't intend it then he must see no problem with it. What else would he do, delete all the replying comments? Comments replying to deleted comments will usually be angry and max must have found it funny to see floating comments giving everyone death threats. I know I do!
January 15th, 2008
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Hey! I'm gonna f*cking kill you *ssh*le!
January 16th, 2008
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Maybe put in a placeholder. Such as <This message has been removed by the administrator> or <This user was deleted by the administrator>
January 15th, 2008
549th
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I noticed the vote threshold for the U&C has been changed to 350.
January 16th, 2008
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Max, can there please be a section that just has random sites rated 4 stars and above? (Not sites rated 3.6 to 3.8 like the Worthwhile section had, lol) But yeah, it can still be called Worthwhile YTMND's, I don't really care about the name, lol.
January 17th, 2008
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Yes please. Old YTMNDs shouldn't be disappearing so easily.
January 17th, 2008
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Yeah, the threshold was lowered because sites stayed on it all week and sometimes didn't even get the 500 votes. An improved Worthwhile section is what YTMND has been needing for a long time.
January 17th, 2008
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I think it is a good thing. The front page can become stale when the some old sites are always on the U&C and in turn, the Daily Top Viewed.
January 17th, 2008
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Wait, what? lol, I wasn't suggesting changing the vote limit back to 500. I think an improved Worthwhile section should be enough to add constantly-fresh content to the homepage. That should keep the front page from being stale. Worthwhile YTMNDs were updated every half hour, which should be enough to fit in several hundred different good sites per day. A few of those sites might even occasionally make it on to Top Viewed every so often. That would likely be better than a WoW or a "dugg" site.
January 17th, 2008
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I loved the Worthwhile section when it had standards. Many of my sites became popular because of it. Max, please change the rating threshold back to 4.0, 20 votes minimum, and a better rotation. You can replace the Featured User box with it because honestly, the featured users who makes good sites do so sparingly while the featured users who don't make good sites do it constantly.
January 24th, 2008
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I found this in the Worthwhile section http://sh*ttingbackwards.ytmnd.com/ This site would also be a good starting point for deleting some garbage here.
January 26th, 2008
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A year or so ago Max changed the threshold for the Worthwhile. It used to be sites above 4.01 and 20 votes would qualify you. Then it changed to 3.6 (or 3.75) and the only sites that would show up were not rated higher than 3.9. That's when the Worthwhile box died. If it was changed back and had a good randomizer it would be good having it back on the front page.
January 26th, 2008
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It would certainly be a lot better than the Featured Users box. If a featured user's site isn't good enough to get on Up and Coming by itself, then there's no real reason to let the user's past success make their new site stay on the front page.
January 29th, 2008
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I agree with Ocho. But a small selfish part of me wants to keep having an advantage over teh commonfolk. But seriously, the featured user section hasn't worked out at all.
January 16th, 2008
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http://www.ytmnd.com/users/ballzass91/ Lol, this guy is featured and his highest rated site is 3.24. Is this supposed to be some kind of joke? (I find it hilarious, lol)
January 16th, 2008
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filibuster for featured
February 15th, 2008
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i just saw this. yes, lol
January 16th, 2008
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how about giving 2nd place DEW contestant his promised YTMND tshirt..... pshhh
January 17th, 2008
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That was a good dew btw. Damnit GIVE HIM WHAT HE DESERVES.
January 17th, 2008
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Why does this website still exist?
January 18th, 2008
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I think the hall of fame sites should be chosen by you and a committee of the most important people at ytmnd. You or someone in the committee nominates a site if they feel it's worthy, and the committee votes. Maybe if 3/4 approve it gets in. The committee might be made up of like you, syncan, sirlemming, other staff, moderators, etc.
January 18th, 2008
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SirLemming isn't staff, lol. If he is then he's been working undercover and you just blew it for him! Way to go!
January 18th, 2008
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But if you mentioned him because he has Cosby Bebop in Hall of Fame then that could be a good reason to let him vote. Let people with HoF sites vote on what goes into HoF, in addition to other people that fit other requirements (whatever those may be).
January 18th, 2008
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Well we'd have to remove some HoF sites first, of course.
January 18th, 2008
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Or we could just remove all of them, except for the original YTMND. Most of the original HoF sites would make it back on eventually, and maybe then the creators of those sites may be more trusted to vote on HoF sites. I also didn't mean to let them have more voting power than anyone else, I just meant in addition to whoever else is voting. I dunno, I'm just making this up as I go along, why don't we just vote on it?
January 18th, 2008
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YTMND is evolving (I know still), I dont think we should have concerns SPECIFICALLY on hall of fame. Lets leave it as it is. Might aswell.
January 18th, 2008
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I don't see why we can't multi-task!
January 19th, 2008
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I've been with ytmnd for a while now, so here are my opinions and comments for you Max. 1.) I have never been fully aware of what the moderation system is, or has been. 2.) I believe the biggest flaw with ytmnd lies in the top viewed for the day; lists like that are self perpetuating. A ytmnd that might not have merit to be up there could be held there by people just being curious enough to look at it, obviously. I just think maybe there should be an option to vote kick a ytmnd off certain lists.
January 19th, 2008
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I'm not sure at what point the vote should take effect, as I don't really know anything about the traffic on this site, etc. 3.) My only really big dissapointment ever was the loss of ytmnsfw.com 4.) Perhaps a vote to extend time between a users voting/comments at certain intervals could be implemented as a punishement; yet again I don't know how many votes this should take.
January 20th, 2008
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Why is the left side so narrow and the right side so wide?
January 20th, 2008
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That's better.
January 20th, 2008
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Because some nsfw site in the featured users section has a really long title so it's stretching the page, lol. (I think that's why it was nsfw'd, lol)
January 21st, 2008
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Either a bunch of former ytmnd veterans have come back under new names, or there's been an inexplicable influx of awesome newcomers in the last month or so.
January 21st, 2008
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Incidentally, "Inexplicable Influx" would make a great band name.
January 21st, 2008
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Korf41 and lowcast: MIA. :(
January 22nd, 2008
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Wait, Korf41 was really Heath Ledger?
January 22nd, 2008
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I think we should have subscriptions to other users (Like youtube where if a person that you subscribed makes a site it will show up in the frontpage). I am thinking we can make this a seperate column on the homepage (Perhaps as instead of sponsorships or featured users, we can have a column that says "Subscribed YTMND's". The users that you subscribe to will be in a tealish, baby blue color, and like the featured user column, it will go in order from when it was made, the username will be next to the ytmnd
January 22nd, 2008
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I came up with that idea three months ago except it was to replace the featured user box.
January 22nd, 2008
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Thats a good thing that i had the same idea as you then. Since more than one person recommends it, more than one person will actually use it.
January 22nd, 2008
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If you go through the first page of this news, you'll see peesauce made the same suggestion.
January 22nd, 2008
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I really like the addition of "hall of fame" votes, with extreme limitations. Personally, I would make them available once a month to members who have proven they deserve it. Either by distinguishing themselves as a cut above the rest, or by being here for some significant amount of time and making at least X number of sites that are rated above 2.5 or 3.
January 23rd, 2008
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I think the amount of votes would be a better way of determining who is qualified to judge a "hall of fame." Longevity is obviously important, but I don't think people need to have well-rated sites in order to demonstrate good taste in YTMNDs.
January 22nd, 2008
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where are all the "heath ledger is dead" ytmnds?
January 22nd, 2008
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http://spicolireviews.ytmnd.com
January 22nd, 2008
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lol, max's background music http://content.ytmnd.com/assets/flash/wings.swf
January 22nd, 2008
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wow its cheekygirl lol sup. also LOL guitar music
January 22nd, 2008
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i love dis sh*t. gr8 movie, gr8 soundtrack.
January 22nd, 2008
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He died of gaids.
January 22nd, 2008
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http://cheeky-girl.ytmnd.com/
January 22nd, 2008
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It's a sad, sad day, my boyz.
January 24th, 2008
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I'VE GOT BALLS OF STEEL BALLS OF STEEL BALLS OF STEEL BALLS OF STEEL I'VE GOT BALLS OF STEEL I'VE GOT BALLS OF STEEL BALL BALL BALL BALL BALL BALLS OF STEEL BLOW IT OUT YOUR ASS
January 25th, 2008
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Well, everyone has just about covered anything I wanted to say. I do have an issue with people ghost voting, though. I think it would be cool if you could not vote without leaving a comment of some sort.( I have no clue how hard it would be to implement) This could be quite practical and hopefully take out any remaining votebots . As well as singling out trolls and narvs, it would make it easier to see who your friends and enemies are, and you can then block (or not) people accordingly.
January 25th, 2008
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It just bugs the sh*t out of me when I get downvoted, and there isn't even an explanation of why. I can take a downvote mind you, but I would rather someone leave some feedback, be it constructive criticism or not.
January 25th, 2008
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Then people would only upvote and rarely downvote because they don't want to be revenge downvoted (I've caught four people revenge downvote me this week) or thought of as a downvoter. We would also see a bunch of blank comments or "lol".
January 25th, 2008
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Yeah thats true, I guess, but I feel thats the case anyways right now. But that way if the 'friends and enemies' option comes into play, you could block the dummies. I'm being a little hypocritical in a way because I don't always leave comments, but I've never revenge downvoted either, because thats just weak. Also, I guess if someone is going to downvote to get higher ratings for their own sites, they wouldn't really be swayed in an argument over it.
January 25th, 2008
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Damn your logic, hank, damn it!!!!!!!!!
January 26th, 2008
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We would end up with nothing but comment spamming and HOLY F*CK I NEED TO SOBER UP
January 26th, 2008
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I just wanted to comment on that Maxim ad. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for big tits and women with big tits, but that is a pretty lousy photo. And I don't think I've ever seen a lousy photo in Maxim. So what's the deal? F*ck I drank too much
January 26th, 2008
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Bizzizz alts: http://www.ytmnd.com/users/asdfasdfasdfasdfasdf/ http://www.ytmnd.com/users/bississs http://www.ytmnd.com/users/qwertuiop http://www.ytmnd.com/users/wississ http://www.ytmnd.com/users/casewestern http://www.ytmnd.com/users/liberalbille
January 26th, 2008
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Friend's alt: http://www.ytmnd.com/users/almightyjeef/, http://www.ytmnd.com/users/ctuck/, http://www.ytmnd.com/users/CashMyCheck/, http://www.ytmnd.com/users/SexWithRonPaul/, http://www.ytmnd.com/users/SexWithBrains/ http://www.ytmnd.com/users/neil121/
January 26th, 2008
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New Gimmick downvote tard: http://ytmnd.com/users/Boota/
January 27th, 2008
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Max, I found a torrent, but it has no seeders. http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3370952/Boards_of_Canada_-_The_Campfire_Headphase__2005_(warpcd123_P) There's the link regardless. If you find anything, let me know, I would love to listen as well.
January 27th, 2008
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Scratch that, I'm downloading it right now. Comments confirm it's fake-ness.
January 27th, 2008
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WTF IS WITH THE HALL OF FAME!!?
January 27th, 2008
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Has the amount of days eligible to spend on the U&C been increased? There are a few sites that seem to be on there for almost a week.
January 29th, 2008
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Satan Approves
January 29th, 2008
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hahahaha, nice # of the Beast get
January 30th, 2008
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update news k thx
January 31st, 2008
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http://siteanalytics.compete.com/ytmnd.com/?metric=uv What did we do in December 06 to drive everyone away? lol
January 31st, 2008
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http://ytmnd.com/news/?news_id=55 Apparently a lot of people quit after this news post? lol Well, should we go over what we did then and figure out how we can fix it or something like that? That sounds good, okay here are some things that happened. Sega of Europe sent us a Cease and Desist Order. HTPAT replaced Blue Ball Machine in Top Viewed and was added to Hall of Fame. State-of-Mind quit. Fourest was hacked, and then DR-L337 was locked. Um... what else?
January 31st, 2008
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Well, I'm not really sure how to fix those things directly. As in, we would probably have to get State-of-Mind back for that particular aspect, but there must be some reason that users like him quit in the first place. So perhaps the problem took place before December 06? Anyway, as for sites like HTPAT in Hall of Fame, we can fix that just by changing the Hall of fame around. So I hope those HoF improvements are added soon. We should probably fix that as soon as possible actually, lol. If Hall of Fame is
January 31st, 2008
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supposed to be an accurate representation of all of YTMND, then visitors to YTMND are probably even still being driven away just by seeing it filled with NeoMatrixClt's sites. Just one look at almost any of them will make people think "WTF this is Hall of Fame material for this site? Screw this I'm going to watch more funny youtube poop videos."
January 31st, 2008
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I am pretty sure a lot of people mentioned they quit because the promised mod system never materialized.
January 31st, 2008
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Lack of moderation, dumb cliques, WoW and MySpace-related sites, reluctance on Max's part to appoint more staff, alt. accounts, flawed front page, Digg-whoring, split-voting becoming the norm, new good fads harder to spawn, changes in technology determining engagement with YTMND in general, every good site having a crappy sarcastic counterpart, comment spam, any criticisms downvoted thanks to the comment vote feature, more kids that demand NEDM/300/Poland or anything with '-TMND' in the title...
January 31st, 2008
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lol you guys should make "We Didn't f*ck The Website" lolol nor we didn't mod it cuz max wouldn't mod it lolol
February 1st, 2008
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I have to say though, in light of the factors I listed, YTMND's doing alright. I think we just had a year where we got a lot of attention. From late '05 to '06, I'd say. This is still a fairly 'underground' website, so don't let those graphs influence your take on its strength.
February 1st, 2008
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Plus, the Top Viewed doesn't get as many views anymore because: A) YouTube/MySpace steal our stuff. B) YTMNDs are directly linked more often by Digg and WoW influencing the top spots often. C) Back in 2004-5, all the popular YTMNDs were pretty much on the front page all the time. There was a bigger focus on the 'all-time' most viewed/rated in 2004, and 2005's front page constantly featured 'mod favorites' - which were often classic YTMNDs and fad-starting sites - so fads and spinoffs were in big supply.
February 1st, 2008
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I don't know what we can do about Digg and WoW putting sites in Top Viewed, besides putting the site in HoF so it won't get on Top Viewed anymore, which is what we're trying to avoid in the first place. Then, once we get this place cleaned up a little bit, we could do with some extra outside links to YTMND in general. Another media sighting could help, lol
February 1st, 2008
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Syncan and MasterSistu quit making sites.
February 1st, 2008
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You know what, as BAKco proved yesterday via another one of his horrendous sites, most people still don't know that Max changed the HOF to include all of NeoMatrixClt's sites.
February 3rd, 2008
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Just wanted to point out that SA has a random ytmnd thread going right now, and sh*tty unimaginative fad music is so overused that seriously every f*cking site is Leroy Jenkins, Mario music, "How could this happen to me" etc.
February 3rd, 2008
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That would explain why so many old sites and bad sites have suddenly popped into the top viewed.
February 3rd, 2008
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Actually hank, it's a thread for randomized ytmnds, you know, "RANDOM YTMNDS ARE BETTER THAN ANYTHING YOU COULD MAKE." http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2759409
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