makeshift patriot

Ah May, when it finally becomes clear winter has ended, the month of my birth. May brings mixed emotions, mainly, shame and frustration.

I'm writing this news post with muscles in my hand I haven't been forced to use since grade school, actually physically writing this news post on a note pad. You see dear reader, I've been crippled by my sedentary lifestyle.


This is a two-part news post, first the depressing explanation of why I have been absent for a while, and second some big upcoming changes I want you guys to check out.

How the internet turned me into a sloth and cripple

By Max Goldberg, age 25 26

It all started with YTMND. The responsibility of maintaining this site started out as a fairly simple task and has grown to become a beast of burden and responsibility. I started YTMND because I like to make widgets, doodads and new features. I am in love with research and development. Over the years, my administrative tasks such as moderation, monetization and "community management" have made R&D more of a side benefit to an otherwise tedious job. It's because of this that I took a break and decided to work on weblog.

Weblog is a project I have held near and dear to my heart for many years. It originated when a pal created a script to log IRC chat and filter out the links back in 1998, before "weblog" was a synonym of an online journal, before the term "blog" was even invented. A few years later it died so I decided to make a new version which captures the images people link in chat rooms as well. I got really into it, wrote an entire bot from scratch and did all sorts of templating and other frivolous coding that has never really been used. This was in the beginning of 2004 and in the middle of creating this site, I made YTMND, which quickly became my main focus.

Over the last few months I have been thinking more and more about weblog, a site which at its heart is completely unmonetizable. I decided to make a new version, something spectacular. A project I could put my energy into without having to worry about user signup, moderation and monetization. A project I could work on for the sole purpose of creating something new and better.

So one day I sat down and wrote up some specs, and started coding some of the bits I thought may be fun. I became consumed. Six to seven day weeks at 18 to 24 hour days of coding, designing, testing and molding my dreams into reality. Ignoring phone calls from friends and family, never leaving the house unless I needed necessities, almost no human contact. I was loving every second of it.

Then one day I woke up and rolled out of bed, went to the bathroom to urinate, shower and admire the beard I had been unintentionally cultivating; I made a bowl of cereal and walked the 15 feet to my work station. Short of bathroom breaks and to get up and make tea, this was the most I moved for six week. This was my daily routine. On this day something was different; when I sat down my left thigh had a soreness to it, like I had run a marathon without stretching.

The pain became increasingly worse over the day to the point where I actually got up and tried stretching. It didn't seem to make a difference, but the pain seemed to slowly go away as long as I wasn't sitting, so I sat back down went to work. Mind you I'm no sadist, but I am apathetic enough that my drive to create is high enough to ignore minor aches and pains or any self inflicted discomfort.

After a few days of this, I decided it was time to Google up some information on muscle pain and see if I couldn't do anything about this pain in my lower east side (sorry Martin Amis). With a lot of finite descriptions of my pain I've self diagnosed myself with Sciatica, more specifically "Piriformis syndrome". Ironically nicknamed "fat wallet syndrome" as it is usually self inflicted by sitting on a thick wallet for a long period of time. I wish that had been true in my case, but alas, I think it was due to me sitting on my feet for long periods of time.

When you think about people who stay in the same position for such an extended period of time that they become injured my thoughts are immediately drawn towards Maury Povich clips of extremely obese individuals. According to my BMI I'm not even obese. I'm just one point into "overweight", just enough to be uncomfortable in weather above 80 degrees fahrenheit. In the famous words of Michael Richards, "That's what's so insane about all this!"

At this point I am unable to sit for a period of longer than 15 minutes without incredible pain. I'm not sure if this is a punishment from god for not working hard enough on YTMND or working too hard on Weblog. Either way, I've spent a good deal of time in bed thinking about the future of YTMND, as well as my own future. Let's face it; this site has been depressing for a while and it needs some serious loving. I have a doctor's appointment on Wednesday and physical therapy on Thursday. Physical fucking therapy. What a decrepit douche-bag I've become.

Anyway, enough of my pitiful problems. Let's discuss YTMND.

Down to Business


As my first major order of business for this summer, I have decided a new site template is in order. The site template has been pretty much static since 2004. While I've spent considerable time on the moderation side of things, I haven't really worked on compatibility or usability of the actual sites hosted on YTMND. One of the major reasons for doing so now is that with all of the work on the refactor, YTMND isn't getting much public love at the moment and I can work on the template without interfering with the rest of the refactor.

One of the problems that has been around since the beginning of YTMND is that playing sound through different browsers is a pain at best and impossible at worst. Requiring people to install (and understand how and why) Quicktime for Firefox to play YTMNDs is ridiculous. Then you look at looping sound. It doesn't work anymore at all and hoping that Quicktime/Apple will fix their shit after years is pathetic and pointless. So all sound will be played through Flash, this means gapless sound will actually be gapless. Lovely, seamless loops.

Instead of trying to break it down into bits and pieces you will all find boring, let me type up my in-bed-plan for the YTMND template (which you will find boring as well).

YTMND Flash Site Template

Draft version 0.02

  • 1. Overview
  • 2. New Features
  • 3. Possible New Features
  • 4. Dependencies
  • 5. Concerns

1. Overview

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The goal is to recreate the current HTML site template into a 100% flash template. This will remedy a large number of problems that plague the current site template as well as removing the dependency for Quicktime or alternatives to play sound. Greater than 99% of the users who visit YTMND currently have Flash version 9 or greater, so harnessing the power and flexibility of Actionscript 3.0 seems ideal.


2. New Features

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    1. Volume Control and Mute

      The ability to raise/lower volume using a control directly on the site, using a flash cookie to save the volume level.

    2. Pause

      The ability to pause and resume a YTMND using a control directly on the site. For animated sites, this will pause both the animation and the sound, for non-animated sites this will merely pause the sound.

    3. Restart

      The ability to restart the YTMND using a control directly on the site without having to reload the page.

    4. Automatic re-synchronization of animation

      An automatic forced re-synchronization of sound and animation every X loops ensures that continual looping won't ruin the site due to lazy synching.

    5. Loader advertisements

      Finally being able to monetize the sites themselves with a 300x250 ad shown during loading. More on this below.

    6. Asynchronous loading of site assets

      Would allow both image and sound to be loaded at the same time, allowing for much quicker loading speed. Additionally, 100% flash would make the current onload issues (sites failing to start, browser compatibility, waiting for slow ad servers, etc) moot.

    7. Better image placement

      Currently you can only tile or center an image. New options would be to position at top left, top center, top right, middle left, middle center etc.

    8. Truly seamless looping

      No more gaps between sound loops. MP3s will still have gaps due to issues with the format that are almost insurmountable, but WAV files uploaded seem to be gapless once imported into Flash from all the testing I've done.

3. Possible New Features

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    1. Zooming text options

      Multiple options for shaping and positioning the zooming text. Such as text that blooms from the center or bottom of the page, or text that is rotated etc.

    2. Finite image placement

      The ability to set a pixel location of where the image should be positioned for ultimate control.

    3. Background image

      When not using a tiled image, allow users to have a background image with another image on top of it, with the option of tiling the background image or placing it like you would a normal image.

    4. "Oh shit" button

      An option that would allow the user to hit the spacebar which would instantly kill the sound and show a "work safe" image of a web page, such as a Google search.

    5. Non-flash alternative

      Depending on site options, fall back to a plain HTML/Javascript version of the site if possible. Show a warning message explaining the user is not getting the true YTMND experience as well. Alternatively, just prompt the user to install Flash.

    6. Customizable Site Data

      Allow site creators to choose what shows up on the info bar out of all the possible meta data on site profiles.

    7. Downloadable YTMNDs

      If everything is in Flash, it's possible we could package up all of the assets and site data into a single file and let people download YTMNDs.

4. Dependencies

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    1. Asset conversion

      All WAV files need to be converted to SWF or some other Flash-consumable format that doesn't add padding. All animated GIFs need to be turned into Flash MovieClips.

    2. Ad system

      As far as I know, Flash can not display embedded HTML/Javascript which is what most ads are. This means the ads have to consist of either an image file or a Flash MovieClip. A simple ad system would need to be built to handle tracking views/clicks etc for this. More Below

5. Concerns

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    1. Moderation panel

      This would invalidate a large amount of work I did creating the site moderation mini-panel. I'd need to figure out some way to reincorporate it into the new site template. Possible solutions are an iframe/normal frame, a popup or some sort of side bar or firefox extension type dealy.

    2. Asset conversion

      Asset to Flash conversion is a pretty big ordeal due to the millions of files that need to be altered.

      Currently using PHPTurbine, I can convert WAVs and GIFs to SWFs fairly well, but it is unclear if the resulting SWF is in a format we really want. I need to learn more Flash before I can figure out if this is a major problem or not.

      Another issue is that the conversion is picky about WAV files that aren't of a standard frequency (11kHz, 22kHz, 44kHz, etc) and this means some sites may need to be disabled or require an extra layer of conversion using sox or some other sound tool.

    3. Animated GIF lag

      Animated GIFs get turned into Flash MovieClips in order to be displayed. There is open source code to deal with this, but I need to test the limits of it. I am worried having 400 MovieClips tiled on a page (to emulate a current page with tiled animated gifs) might shit the bed. I am also somewhat concerned about the translation of frame-timing from GIF to Flash, but it may not be a big issue.

    4. Ad Blocking

      The data package that is sent to the YTMND loader will have ad data in it. It would not be hard to bypass/alter this client side to avoid having to look at ads. I think the best way to do this is include a hash of the data using a secret or changing salt to verify the data has not been altered in any way.

    5. Zooming text

      I'm not sure if I will encounter the same problems we see with lag due to large amounts of transparent background text on top of animations, but if not we can ditch the image text stuff.

    6. Scaling/resizing

      Again due to my lack of Flash experience, I don't know how to handle browser resizes on-the-fly, and I'm not sure how to set it up so stuff scales properly.



This is a sizable list of tasks that need to be completed, but in all honesty I don't think it any of it will be incredibly hard to do. At the same time, I am completely out of my element. I don't know Flash at all, but assuming I take a handful of pain meds every day I think I can learn enough to make something magical happen. I've already started laying the groundwork and despite my crippling pain, I've made some real progress.

Now before I go, let me mention the ads bit of the new template. Most of you know the sub-domains themselves are hosted at a huge loss and the ads on the other parts of the site make up for most of the hosting costs. I want to change this and make the sites actually profitable, but as most you also know (and as shown by the pitiful YTMND coffers) I really dislike ads. The new ads will only be shown during the loading of the assets, for about five to eight seconds, but there's a lot more to it than that.

One of the most ambitious ideas for this new loader is to use remnant advertising like you see around the site normally in the beginning and try to move to a user-funded ad system. I want the ads to be an extension of the creativity of the community and I think I've come up with a plan that is beautiful if executed correctly.

The key here is to allow users who just want to be creative to be able to express themselves at a fairly low cost. I've come up with a pricing plan that will allow users to buy ads for as little as $1 for a month for non-commercial purposes. The more options, targeting and priority you want, the price goes up. Ultimately non-commercial advertising will be cheap, most likely cheaper than the current average site sponsorship is. Ideally YTMND could at some point be run completely with non-commercial ads.

I will write about it a lot more in a later news post, but imagine this; Currently the main way users have to promote other sites is with site sponsorship which can be costly and not always have the desired effect. Imagine if for $5 you could run a month long ad that is shown to anyone who visits a site you like (or dislike), imagine being able to run ads across all sites made by a user you admire or despise, imagine being able to run ads that show up any time someone searches for a keyword. I think this is possible and could add an incredible layer of creativity to the site.


At any rate, I wish you all the best and I hope that soon I am able to participate with more vigor than I am currently capable.

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May 26th, 2008
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Get well soon Max, we love the work you do!
May 26th, 2008
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May 26th, 2008
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I like the ideas just don't overdo it
May 26th, 2008
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I'm sure a sizable part of the YTMND userbase are advanced (if not professional) Flash developers. Get some of us to help out with coding. I'd like to.
May 26th, 2008
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tl;dr ban fourest/darth wang/chronster etc...
May 27th, 2008
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It would be nice to have better synchronization. Using Safari, I don't get that very much...
May 27th, 2008
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207th post!
May 27th, 2008
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I'm excited. Best of luck in recovery, sir!
May 27th, 2008
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does anyone actually take care of alts anymore? there's been a lot of massive and obvious alt-ing lately, and nobody has done a thing about it. i even sent the names in of a guy with 6 alts to support@ytmnd.com a long time ago, and nothing ever came of it.
May 27th, 2008
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dang 26... thats the number I face come b-day
May 27th, 2008
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I don't like ytmnd that much anymore, nothing is funny and everything is f*ggish.
May 27th, 2008
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may, my *ss it stops snowing (in MN anyway)
May 27th, 2008
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UNRELATED TO THE NEWPOST: Are there any supermods out there that can help me with an account issue? Maybe that's something max could add, a list of mods so we know who to whine to
May 27th, 2008
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*ahem* http://www.ytmnd.com/info/staff
May 27th, 2008
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If there is a way that we can upload other files formats like AVI, MPEG, FLV or even the open-source Ogg Theora instead of a GIF, or have the ability to upload video and have the YTMND Super Computer convert that video into a flash-friendly FLV file, then that would make my life a billion times easier.
May 27th, 2008
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I had a conversation with Syncan a long time ago where we discussed the possibility of a tool that would allow people to upload images/sound/video etc and then synch loops directly on the site with the ability to change all the timings live in Flash. I don't see this happening soon though. As for new file types, it may be worth looking in to. My concern is that people will just use YTMND like Youtube.
May 27th, 2008
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That concern is at the top of my mind.
May 27th, 2008
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Don't make it like youtube! fourest might quit!
May 27th, 2008
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The pause and restart options are amazing and long overdue. Also kudos on the elimination of ear rape. Now stop sitting in your chair indian style like a 12 year old girl.
May 27th, 2008
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Advice from a doctor here... Take a sh*t and call me in the morning. Also, c*cks.
May 27th, 2008
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wow, now im depressed. good ideas for features. also, about your *ss - you could buy some of those revitalizing detox foot patches and slap that thing on your butt. its supposed to improve circulation.
May 27th, 2008
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Sounds good. Good luck with your therapy.
May 27th, 2008
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NO ADS. Also, THE FLAGSHOP IS OUTTASTOCK
May 27th, 2008
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Been meaning to use this track on a news post forever.
May 27th, 2008
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i hang myself at half mast
May 27th, 2008
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So, first your finger, and now this?
May 27th, 2008
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Uh oh, does this mean he's going to find Jesus and marry a girl half his age? Which would be 13 I guess. Your midlife crisis isn't due for a while! I guess ytmnd is cancelled...
May 27th, 2008
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Oh yeah, it's called a chair doughnut, get one and move on. Indian style in a chair, jeez...
May 27th, 2008
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"... might sh*t the bed." NO MORE TOOL FOR YOU.
May 27th, 2008
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makeshift patriot the flagshop is outta stock, i hang myself at half mast
May 27th, 2008
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Max: Your ideas seem completely possible, and they look like they will be a good addition to the website. I love the advertising idea. YTMND aside, hope you feel better with your George Costanza syndrome.
May 27th, 2008
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Freaking awesome. Loved the whole bit of it. It seems like the switch to Flash would really do wonders for the site. I love the ad idea as well. I'm not sure what the cost of hosting YTMND is currently though :/ could you give us some idea Max? I'm just curious. Also, gl with flash! Hope to see something new in the future :P
May 27th, 2008
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That's masochist, not sadist.
May 28th, 2008
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Max, that was a very interesting post. In my humble opinion, YTMND peaked some time ago and it's now a lost cause. Don't get me wrong, there's still some good sites being made, and viewership hasn't completely deteriorated. But instead of focusing your talent on this site, I'd recommend you look to greener pastures. I don't know if this site is making you any money, but if it's actually still costing you money, ditch it.
May 28th, 2008
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sh*t one. get well soon. i love the weblog, its the first thing i go to every day. you're coming to Dublin in july i hear? cya then
May 28th, 2008
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I think it would be best if you rigged it so ads during loading showed up only for viewers who aren't logged in members
May 28th, 2008
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Hello max, can you please do something about certain mods changing people's passwords for sh*ts and giggles? Thanks.
May 28th, 2008
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Max, where is Syncan? He hasn't made a site in so long, and I think people are forgetting how to make YTMNDs because of it.
May 28th, 2008
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Nobody cares, but I'm back again again, sort of. And I might actually contribute original content for once (at least sound-wise).
May 28th, 2008
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Sounds freaking awesome!!
May 28th, 2008
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I can't wait for the "OH SH*T" button
May 28th, 2008
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Oh I have a couple suggestions for the front page... such as an option for logged in users to choose whether or not nsfw stuff is displayed or not... Another would be an option to have a list of favorite users that could also display as a menu of created sites on the front when logged in
May 28th, 2008
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Click the option box and suggestion number one will come true.
May 28th, 2008
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hi max
May 29th, 2008
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OH SH*T BUTTON = YES
May 29th, 2008
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That "Oh, Sh*t" button sounds life a gift from God.
May 29th, 2008
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Downloadable YTMND's FTW. im sick of making web pags out of folders with the .gif and audio....not too affective as it is >.>
May 29th, 2008
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damn this is a pretty ambitious white paper you got laid out here max...reminds me of when i used to get coked up in hotel bathrooms and ramble to strangers about my life dreams. baby steps how about first of all we change the loading music to motorhead ace of spades oh f*ck lost is on
May 30th, 2008
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I make awful sites with my brother, and consequently owe my bit of ruining teh interwebs to yousir. I hate PT btw, it makes me feel old too sometimes...just try to get a hot therapist...usually not gonna happen XD
May 30th, 2008
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Also, benching 250 of anybody would be entertaining.
May 30th, 2008
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flag shop was outta stock
May 30th, 2008
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pm me if you need help jacking it max okay :-)
May 30th, 2008
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also i would like to wish you a belated happy birthday i hope you had a lovely day :-)
May 30th, 2008
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these things always come in threes so here is my third comment goodnight :-)
May 30th, 2008
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MAX!!! Why are 3-star ratings showing up with blue stars?
May 30th, 2008
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What do you mean? Everything looks normal on my end.
May 31st, 2008
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Hmm, it's not doing it anymore. For awhile, anyone that voted 3 and left a comment, their stars were the light blue color. I should have taken a screen shot to show people what I meant
May 31st, 2008
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I wish you had because I was on the same time you were last night and I didn't see anything different.
May 31st, 2008
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it might just be YOUR MASHEENZ. I experienced a similar problem on some gay laptop once. Every 1 star vote was showing up in that darkish color that shows when your vote overlaps with the main vote. Also, every 2+ vote was showing up as 5 stars. It was kinda strange with old comments pages looking like almost every person decided to go back and change their vote to 5. Also, that laptop displayed every single gif with only 2 colors, so i assume the laptop was just f*ckin dead and needed storage
May 31st, 2008
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actually, I did manage to capture something in a screen shot. Along with every 3 star vote showing up with blue stars, any site that had approx a 3-star rating had blue stars. Not trying to be an attention whore, but in my site, heylacrossestar83.ytmnd.com, you can see an example of this if you look at one of the sites in the recently created section. Notice the blue stars...the site had an exact rating of 3 and instead of red stars, they are blue.
May 31st, 2008
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actually, I did manage to capture something in a screen shot. Along with every 3 star vote showing up with blue stars, any site that had approx a 3-star rating had blue stars. Not trying to be an attention whore, but in my site, heylacrossestar83.ytmnd.com, you can see an example of this if you look at one of the sites in the recently created section. Notice the blue stars...the site had an exact rating of 3 and instead of red stars, they are blue.
May 31st, 2008
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oops, how did that happen?
May 30th, 2008
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i love the spacebar idea and also i think seinfeld made an episode about you with the castanza wallet
June 3rd, 2008
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The episode with all the receipts flying "NO! MY RECEIPTS!!"' ahh
May 31st, 2008
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I feel your pain, quite literally, Max. A combination of office jobs and frequent computer use has had a similar (though not nearly as detrimental) impact on me as well.
June 1st, 2008
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coding is literally a pain in the ass, get well soon
June 1st, 2008
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Max if you were a bagel you'd be the best bagel ever.
June 1st, 2008
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here's hoping you get well soon
June 1st, 2008
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lol, the rapists
June 2nd, 2008
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I can see it on Craigslist now: "New York coder seeking no-strings-attached sex. Must know massage therapy and javascript."
June 2nd, 2008
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can we add a feature that allows you to set your time zone instead of being on central?
June 3rd, 2008
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central sucks!
June 3rd, 2008
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this is something i've always sort of wanted as the ytmnd servers have never been in my time zone. it would require me to go through everywhere time stamps are used and figure out if i need to use ytmnd time or the user's time. if i manage to incorporate it i will probably do it in the refactor. maybe it's something i can do in javascript without much effort.
June 3rd, 2008
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that's a separate issue. Ultimately I have been doing mostly back end and obvious stuff in the refactor so far but i am going to get to a point where i am going to need an incredible amount of feedback on various changes I'm making. Sadly there doesn't seem to be a medium that enables this very well outside of IRC, which not many people seem to use anymore.
June 4th, 2008
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IRC is up??? I cant connect through the weblink...
June 6th, 2008
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Leave it on Central. I like it that way. I use it as a clock so I know when I should be hitting the sack
June 5th, 2008
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IRC? Gabbly? Meh. I'd use the forums to send feedback if they weren't so toxic.
June 5th, 2008
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or we could just use these news posts like always
June 6th, 2008
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I don't get the impression that's been effective...
June 6th, 2008
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Well I said that just because I noticed max has decided to reply to nearly every comment asking for help or suggesting new ideas on this news post.
June 7th, 2008
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Yeah, I noticed too. I just didn't expect replies more than a few days after the initial post! Max usually seems to go off and work on YTMND almost straight after posting any news, but I guess this one was more significant.
June 7th, 2008
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So, do any YTMND regulars actually use the forums?
June 5th, 2008
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Max, you are a genius. I love the ideas you have come up with. (love the "O sh*t!" button)
June 6th, 2008
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June 8th, 2008
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Max, you've got to kill those WoW YTMNDs, they're back on the Top Viewed worse than ever!
June 8th, 2008
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Sites should have a limit to how many days they can be on Top Viewed in their life time. I think 30 to 45 days is fair enough. This way when old sites pop up, they don't get punished, but sites like Pi and Dramatic reading and a few WoW sites that keep appearing won't clog the front page. This way Max won't have to put them into the HoF to get them off the Top Viewed either.
June 9th, 2008
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That might work. But surely it's okay for some deserving YTMNDs to return to the Top Viewed now and then? It's the WoW junk that needs deleting for sure. It's obvious these people know they're going to get a crap-load of views through the big WoW forums or Digg. An option to vote YTMNDs with a certain amount of views - say, 50-100,000 or so - off the front page might work. To eliminate bias we'd also need a 'save' function, to tackle abuse against genuinely good/popular sites.
June 9th, 2008
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People make dickcream sites, remix sites, video game sites, f*ggy short films, classic style sites, etc. A lot of them will tell you that the type of sites they make belong here and every other type doesn't. So to say that sites getting hits from WOW forums don't belong on the top viewed would be a significant change. Pandora's box type stuff. Maybe it's a change that should be considered
June 10th, 2008
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Problem is that all these sites undeserving of views have very little to no effort put into them. As max said when he introduced featured users, he wants this site to focus more on the creators, not just creations, which means stolen content doesn't have a place here. That's one of the reasons I like making stuff for this site instead of something like YouTube, where nobody cares. Sites linked through places like wow forums or digg are usually just some image discovered on the internet.
June 10th, 2008
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I think that's where max draws the line. The only top viewed sites he's defaced were sites that were not made on YTMND, like HTPAT and Animal Crossing. That seems to be a good rule of what should stay on Top Viewed and what shouldn't. Though I think a good exception would be to let Pi get on Top Viewed just on March 14th. lolol
June 11th, 2008
373rd
(-1)
Yeah but that was changing the content to stop mass linking from an outside site. If a site is getting views it's getting views. Making that change would simply make Top Viewed a lie. Extreme cases like HTPAT I can understand doing something. But 3 of those WOW sites had less than 3000 views. Nothing that major and it only lasted a few days.
June 20th, 2008
388th
(-1)
You know what f*ck it there are 3 old sites on top viewed and mine is the 13th. Any site older than 2 weeks, unless made by me, should be banned or something. lol
June 8th, 2008
361st
(0)
Sh*t I sit on my wallet at work.... I should stop doing that.
June 10th, 2008
368th
(-1)
Hey, can I make a small request? I want my votes to count again. Please? And yes, i've returned. Again. I've gotten this account back, and I can't really say if it'll be for good this time (in more ways than one)... (And I bet nobody remembers me, in which case, let's start again: Hi everybody! ^.^)
June 10th, 2008
370th
(0)
HI DR NICK!
June 10th, 2008
372nd
(0)
What do you mean? Your votes still count.
June 26th, 2008
404th
(0)
Two words: praying mantises
June 26th, 2008
405th
(0)
Gr33ny, i've been chillin' with cancerous BAAAWing weeaboos, hand-drawn adventurous stick people, and, uhm... what would you call people on DeviantArt? Also, my votes don't seem to do anything... I thought Max disabled the voting powers of prominent up/downvoters. AND! Sakura, I love you for remembering my one-and-a-half day attempt at a new fad. ^^
June 11th, 2008
374th
(0)
Max, It's June.
June 19th, 2008
385th
(1)
SEND LINK
June 12th, 2008
375th
(1)
WOW, featured users started exactly one year ago today. MAX!!!!!! Bring the sparkle puppy with the flowers in his mouth back to the frontpage just for today, along with Alpha Beta Gaga playing in the background
June 13th, 2008
376th
(0)
Maybe you should get out and jog every once in a while, Max. Or maybe yoga? I hear that's good for you.
June 14th, 2008
377th
(-1)
So, in other words, you're making a new YouTube. K.
June 15th, 2008
378th
(0)
Sh*t, I sit on my feet all the f*cking time.
June 15th, 2008
379th
(1)
So this place is turning into newgrounds.com?
June 17th, 2008
380th
(0)
With all the short films being made I think there should be a fast forward button so I don't have to wait 2 minutes for a F*ggot/Khan/Michael Jackson/horse dick/NEDM joke.
June 18th, 2008
382nd
(0)
tl;dr just like the SATs
June 18th, 2008
383rd
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This comment is separating the above comments from the comments below.
June 19th, 2008
384th
(2)
max, this website is old & dying because it requires new & funny user content daily. it was possible one time when for some odd reason everyone worked so hard on they're ytmnds. It was a phenomenon & great for a bit , but now its over & i dout its coming back.
June 19th, 2008
386th
(0)
Seeing a direct VGCats comic on the front page makes me wonder if sites below 3.0 or perhaps higher should be allowed to continue being displayed on Top Viewed (or even if there should be some form of redirect once rating reaches a certain low). That, or new users should wait a day or two before being allowed to vote. Just a couple ideas.
June 20th, 2008
387th
(0)
Everyone needs an 'oh sh*t' button.
June 20th, 2008
389th
(-1)
YTMND has come a long way. I feel so special to have seen it grow up.
June 26th, 2008
406th
(0)
It doesn't seem to have changed a bit in the past year. Which is funny, because I left last July 'cause it had changed too much. I still hate the -new- redesign.
June 26th, 2008
407th
(0)
Honestly, the same stuff is still there. YTMND : Same content :: /b/ : Cancer. But at least it's moderately better than /b/. Thus, my return.
June 21st, 2008
390th
(0)
Awesomebob, Lowcast, and CreepPipe MIA :(
July 15th, 2008
449th
(0)
I LIVE!
June 21st, 2008
391st
(-1)
By the way I've been meaning to ask you; did you ever find your Yiddish Cup?
June 22nd, 2008
392nd
(0)
A couple of hours ago was my first time on this site. Read through the suggested changes and the comments for some ungodly reason--I don't see why this thing has to be talked about in the past tense... There are certainly enough people who spent time dicking around on microsoft paint and watching terrible movies who'd enjoy it more than youtube. I'm going to assume every possible robocop derrivative has already been take.
June 22nd, 2008
393rd
(-3)
Max, you may not be proud of YTMND, and you may feel unappreciated, but sir, you are AWESOME and you need to know it. Even if YTMND isn't doing what you want it to do, it's still doing what IT wants to do, which is a sign of something major: it's alive. it has a soul. it has an emergent identity and that is something precious and amazing even if it's not the precious amazing thing you were hoping for. And seriously if I ever saw you on the street, I would shake your hand and definitely buy you lunch.
June 22nd, 2008
394th
(0)
are you familiar with the law of entropy?
June 22nd, 2008
395th
(0)
It says that everything breaks down and dies over time, unless some person (ie MAX) intervenes to prevent the decay and maybe even improve it. In other words, we can't be satisfied with what YTMND has done for itself without max making improvements to it lololol
June 22nd, 2008
396th
(-1)
I know you told us all to shut up about the front page boxes because we can make our own templates but one box I think is overlooked is Top Rated Today. If you get rid of Featured I'd recommend this over Worthwhile. So many sites get killed because someone else wants their site on Up and Coming so they downvote others. This box would really help those good sites that die with a 3.83 rating and only 6 votes and would allow everyone who checks YTMND at least once a day an easy view of the days' best offerings. And it might encourage more people to downvote troll sites
June 22nd, 2008
397th
(-1)
It also would give people real incentive NOT to try and whore their way onto Top Viewed by posting 10 min before the Top Viewed change over as they would only be in the Top Rated Today box for 10 minutes. Huh? Huh? Genius, right?
June 22nd, 2008
398th
(0)
I have my front page set up to show: 10 Recently created, 5 featured users, 15 top viewed day, 5 most voted this week, 5 user favorites of the day, 10 sponsored, 15 U&C, 5 top rated today, 5 most commented today. It's nice because I see of what's going on today instead of the week which doesn't rotate fast enough for my tastes. When the worthwhile gets fixed I would replace the featured user box with that.
June 22nd, 2008
399th
(-1)
http://www.ytmnd.com/index.html?template_id=25072
June 22nd, 2008
400th
(0)
I'm thrilled about the advent of cross-browser compatibility (I wonder why Firefox never supported the bgsound element even though all the other major browsers do and this one has an open-source model...), and it will be great to cut down on cheap ripoffs of music and background images, because it's a bit harder to extract assets from a SWF than to just download a WAV or MP3 and a JPG or PNG or GIF.
June 24th, 2008
401st
(0)
Is there still a 3MB limit to images and audio?
June 25th, 2008
402nd
(-1)
as far as couple of weeks ago - yes
June 25th, 2008
403rd
(-1)
Bah. Needs to be at least 5MB now.
June 26th, 2008
408th
(1)
June 27th, 2008
409th
(2)
Dude, just end the site, save a little dignity. These posts every 6 weeks about how you're going to incorporate all these new ideas is f*cking embarrassing.
June 27th, 2008
410th
(0)
Yeah the last time we had a real update was last November for the new star colors
June 28th, 2008
411th
(1)
Hey, give Max credit, he added some new obnoxious pop-up ads this week.
June 29th, 2008
414th
(0)
hey why isn't Ochobobo pink? bullsh*t
June 30th, 2008
415th
(0)
lol neither is syncan, and like TWELVE other people
July 3rd, 2008
427th
(0)
f*ck syncan, Ochobobo '08
July 3rd, 2008
428th
(0)
here, take my pink (if I am still pink, too lazy to log out and shed the green)
June 28th, 2008
412th
(0)
If you could get ytmnd to work with the wii and ps3 browsers, that would be a boon. Some of the issues are probably with their terrible software, but if you found a workaround, I bet a lot of folks would be infinately entertained watching killfiction classics on the big screen with surround sound. I'm also going to stop sitting crosslegged in front of my computer.
June 29th, 2008
413th
(0)
http://www.ytmnd.com/users/Deus-Ars/favorites How are all of this guy's favorites in alphabetical order? (Starting with 3 second pop tarts) lol
June 30th, 2008
416th
(-1)
Lovley.
June 30th, 2008
417th
(0)
Max, even though I'm a moderator and I haven't been on the site for two months, You're awesome and I love you
June 30th, 2008
418th
(-1)
Jebus, wat's with all the sh*tty new ads? First it was the depression one with the 18 popups, then some sh*tty flash one that popped over the page, now it's some joke site that completely redirects the page to some sh*tty site with popups.
July 6th, 2008
431st
(0)
and today one tried installing sh*tty software. luv the new ads dood
July 10th, 2008
437th
(0)
They keep getting better. Twice my page has been redirected from YTMND to some other bullsh*t page all by itself
July 1st, 2008
419th
(0)
A flash based site could really change things in other parts of the site, such as the forums Embedded YTMNDs into the forum? I would like to see that.
July 1st, 2008
420th
(0)
Anyone else notice how "reply" comments are completely messed up in Firefox 3? They're all out of alignment and they won't stick in their original boundaries like they did in version 2
July 1st, 2008
421st
(-1)
Amazing, there's actually been a good flow of good sites over the last few days.
July 1st, 2008
422nd
(-1)
I had a crap site on top viewed to start the day. high as 3rd. and it was gone pretty quickly. that was good to see. top rated seems to have a lot of control over top viewed
July 2nd, 2008
423rd
(2)
You know what would make my day? A NEW NEWS POST
July 2nd, 2008
424th
(2)
That's crazy talk!
July 2nd, 2008
425th
(0)
But i love how ghetto YTMND is, I even use the old #!. D,: YOU MAKE ME CRY GOLDBERG. YOU MAKE MY CRRRY.
July 6th, 2008
434th
(0)
could you do something to fix pm notification so it won't forever turn orange when someone on my ban list decides to send me flame mail.
July 10th, 2008
438th
(-2)
max, delete this f*ggot motherf*cker: http://ytmnd.com/users/pberg/votes (yeah, the stupid motherf*cker downvoted a bunch of my sites because of a comment I made about George Carlin. This user has no sites)
July 11th, 2008
439th
(0)
max! a thousand thanks for your post. I'm excited by the new updates you'll be incorporating into the site, but I'm more grateful that you brought up the "fat wallet" thing which I just now realized I'm unwittingly cultivating in my own thigh.
July 12th, 2008
440th
(0)
More news plx :'(
July 13th, 2008
441st
(1)
why havent i won the borat contest yet
July 13th, 2008
442nd
(0)
I like the new interstitial ads that tell me I'll be redirected back to the site in a few seconds but never do. Another hilarious practical joke by macks!
July 13th, 2008
443rd
(0)
Anyone that uses this image (http://content.ytmnd.com/content/b/7/e/b7ec8eee4a8afdfa536745015718c2ca.jpg) in their YTMNDs should be banned, or thrown in the Boo Box
July 14th, 2008
444th
(0)
You know I can't smile without you I can't smile without you I can't laugh and I can't sing I'm finding it hard to do anything You see I feel sad when you're sad I feel glad when you're glad If you only knew what I'm going through I just can't smile without you
July 15th, 2008
445th
(0)
Happy Birthday/Con Air Day! http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=104574518
July 15th, 2008
446th
(0)
104574518
July 15th, 2008
447th
(0)
D'oh, thought it was the 14th today. Sorry.
July 16th, 2008
452nd
(0)
Thanks
July 15th, 2008
450th
(2)
get off your fat *ss and make me t-shirts
July 16th, 2008
451st
(2)
who cares?
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