Sympathy For The Devil

Hello Folks,

Here's an update I should have posted a while ago. I went home for the holidays and one thing led to another so not much has been getting done around here recently.

First up, I'll be making an appearance at roflcon nyc tomorrow. I will most likely be in the bathroom hyperventilating due to the terror of being surrounded by hundreds of basement dwellers. If you make it out, buy me a drink and maybe i'll sign your chest or something. Next up, the new preloader is coming along, all that is left is hammering out the remaining issues with the gif conversion on some of the larger animations. I'll be posting the entire project on google code on Sunday if my hangover isn't too mean. This means you will all get a chance to dink around with it if you wish before it goes live.


The refactor has been keeping me somewhat busy. I've been working on the new commenting system, you can play with it here (click "show html"). The new comments will be able to nest to 5 levels, allow you to collapse/expand wherever and let you page through them without having to load a whole new page. I want to add some neat stuff to site profiles that works like the current comment-age-highlighting but since your last visit. More on that later.

Finally, Federated Media has inked an ad deal on our behalf with Cheetos. Starting in February once a week for six weeks, I'll be choosing a YTMND to highlight on the front page for a "Cheetos Break". I think it will fit in nicely with our current color scheme. This isn't a contest, but if you'd like to make a YTMND that focuses on "breaking free from the constraints of an overly stuffy adult world where we should all play more, and have more fun", I'll be keeping an eye out for them. They obviously need to be SFW. After all, this website is a little too serious sometimes.


Also big-ups to Mark Gormley.

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January 23rd, 2009
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also, still looking for the perfect design :(
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first
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super holy sh*t new new news!!!
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"And yes, I know this will be horribly abused."
January 23rd, 2009
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max get on gabbly
January 23rd, 2009
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WHY MUST I CRY
January 23rd, 2009
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gabbly.com/ytmnd.com
January 23rd, 2009
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Does this make YTMND Dangerously Cheesy™?
January 23rd, 2009
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go with the David Duke design
January 23rd, 2009
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max, new design: http://handdrawn.ytmnd.com/
January 23rd, 2009
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jesus christ why would you go to roflcon, you're just going to be surrounded by gross comp-sci majors with cheeto crumbs in their beards shouting 4chan memes in their crackly, asperger's-filled voices like this is their first time being in public
January 23rd, 2009
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business networking and/or binge drinking
January 23rd, 2009
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cheetos turn my fingers orange
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I like Oprah's site design quite well. Best go with that.
January 24th, 2009
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wheres my shirt
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HOLY SH*T YOU CAN SEE MAX IN PERSON?!
January 24th, 2009
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filibuster
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oh f*ck oh sh*t there;s no underwear on me where's my pot there it is where do I go now oh here we go cheetos fritos tostitos putas
January 24th, 2009
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Start selling shirts again :( http://shirtspleasemax.ytmnd.com/
January 24th, 2009
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I've avoided conventions my whole life.
January 24th, 2009
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max's next update: how he is getting sued by Cheetos
January 24th, 2009
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http://cheeto.ytmnd.com/
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http://oooooooooooof.ytmnd.com/
January 25th, 2009
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http://disgu.st/~max/fanfare.jpg
January 26th, 2009
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One of these days, max, one of these days. I'll comment before you. I was only 2 days and 21 1/2 hours off this time
January 30th, 2009
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good job
January 23rd, 2009
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holy sh*t new news
January 23rd, 2009
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what's so new about "hey guys, max here, still workin' on that flash preloader, gettin' a lot of great progress done, a lot of great features in the pipeline coming soon" it's the same news post he's been making for like 2 years (i <3 you max)
January 23rd, 2009
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http://code.google.com/p/ytmnd-flash-template/source/browse/trunk/ytmnd.as :(
January 26th, 2009
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// f*ck flash.
January 23rd, 2009
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IM IN THE DARK HERE!
January 24th, 2009
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http://i41.tinypic.com/2j14hud.gif
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cheetoman: CCC CCC CCC CCC CCC
January 26th, 2009
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unfunny url
January 27th, 2009
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lol, directory isn't pink.
January 23rd, 2009
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Happy Thanksgiving
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sign my chest or something
January 23rd, 2009
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You'll probably have to shave it first
January 23rd, 2009
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I like the current design better. It's easier to find things. I'm looking forward to the new flash functionality though.
January 23rd, 2009
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Rock god Gormley makes an appearance.
January 25th, 2009
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Let the 9billion worthless Gormley have you seen my stapler ytmnds begin...
January 23rd, 2009
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Hi max, have fun at ROFLthing, make sure you hype the tournament for us kthnx
January 23rd, 2009
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yeah we are actually making a collective effort to bring some more activity back to ytmnd. It's also has nothing to do with the FPA. You should at least give us a sticker or something.
January 23rd, 2009
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yeah comments are what have been holding this site back
January 23rd, 2009
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you have it all figured out.
January 24th, 2009
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as if panting and running to reply to the first comment wasn't bad enough.
January 28th, 2009
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mckenzie's right...
January 23rd, 2009
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I hope the Cheetos thing goes better than the YFly thing
January 23rd, 2009
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BILBO BAGGINS wants AN ASSORTMENT OF LOTIONS
January 24th, 2009
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I believe that PTKFGS will once again have to exact his revenge.
January 23rd, 2009
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I look forward to the new preloader and SFW Cheetos sites by fearcondom.
January 23rd, 2009
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I'm making a cheetos site about an Iraqi orphan who's drowning in a ditch of excrement because his legs got blown off by a grenade and then all of a sudden the cheetos bear busts out and starts defecating cheetos on his face
January 23rd, 2009
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don't you mean Palestinian orphan??
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The Palestinian orphan was cooked alive by a phosphorous grenade
January 23rd, 2009
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im just gonna take a picture of me shoving cheetos in my c*ck hole
January 24th, 2009
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Tubgirl but with cheetos coming out :D
January 24th, 2009
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oh man I can't wait to see all the NSFW cheetos sites
January 24th, 2009
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in before cease and desist
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Victory!
January 23rd, 2009
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This is a comment, it contains information relevant to the text I previously read before writing this opinion of what I have obtained. Cheese makes everything better.
January 24th, 2009
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Hi, CreepPipe. Haven't seen you around in a while.
January 25th, 2009
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i miss your sites creeppipe.
January 23rd, 2009
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"breaking free from the constraints of an overly stuffy adult world where we should all play more, and have more fun" isn't that the plot of Lazytown?
January 23rd, 2009
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This cheetos break thing is a joke, right? Really? That is just odd. You should let DarthWang do one.
January 23rd, 2009
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Hey guys, it's me Moon man. Lets talk about Cheetos.
January 23rd, 2009
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I've already learned that Mark Gormley is just too intense to handle.
January 23rd, 2009
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Make sure you click "watch in high quality".
January 23rd, 2009
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Seriously, he even transcends our Earthly bounds.
January 24th, 2009
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GROMLEYTMND
January 24th, 2009
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Also, why the hell do all of the bad public access singers come from my home state of Florida? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZFrmFhXkr0 First Sondra Prill and now Mark Gromley
January 26th, 2009
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I thought that was from Tim and Eric's for a second.
January 23rd, 2009
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Mark Gormley is gr33nscr33n.
January 23rd, 2009
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We all know you are really ASSC*CKredux
January 23rd, 2009
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Actually after watching that last video....the average homeboy....I want to believe that is you.
January 24th, 2009
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If you look to your left, you will see the new endangered PINK USER. Their kind is rarely spotted in the wild now, and it is believed that they are either going extinct, or will become superfluous. Like an appendix. And no, I'm not bitter that I'm no longer pink. Why do you ask?
January 24th, 2009
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umm, logout MrStump and check your profile.
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You will notice your comments are no longer green.
January 24th, 2009
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No I'm the only green use I've ever seen. But people stopped calling me a pink c*cksucker so I knew I am no longer pink-i-fied.
January 23rd, 2009
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hmm... gifs don't play the same in the new beta player. For example, a gif made in microsoft gif animator (yeah, shoot me) that uses functions such as "restore previous" on individual frames works just fine in the current preloader, but in the new beta loader it will ignore functions such as these and mess up the whole gif. Example: http://howispentmywater.ytmnd.com (sorry to use such a stupid site). I dunno, maybe its just my browser or I should find a better editing program.
January 23rd, 2009
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aww screw it, who cares about a stupid site from 2007? if its too much work, don't worry about fixing the flash player at all. I will learn to cope with it technicalities.
January 24th, 2009
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interesting. the main problem with the new preloader is converting gifs to flash, which nothing seems to do perfectly. it's really problematic.
January 24th, 2009
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Question: What have you tried already?
January 24th, 2009
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various incarnations of ffmpeg which did surprisingly bad, i cant remember what else, this is a culmination of a few years of work on-and-off, the best (and current) encoder i've found seems to be a piece of proprietary software called turbine by a company called "blue pacific software". it hasnt been updated for a few years and they've made it clear they dont plan to update it ever again.
January 24th, 2009
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^Another words, time to give up on Microsoft GIF animator.
January 24th, 2009
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the problem is that most software tries to convert it to video and then to flash, which loses a lot of stuff like transparency, finite timing etc. i may have to write something in c++ to do it myself :(
January 24th, 2009
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Don't waste time fixing this if it is going to take too long. You have more important issues to address, concentrate on those first and the users can find a way around the GIF problem.
January 28th, 2009
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HowISpentMyWater.YTMND.com isn't stupid... well maybe just a bit but it's one of my favorite sites. I've watched it so many times.
January 23rd, 2009
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Well Max, DO IT LIVE!
January 24th, 2009
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SHUT YOUR F*CKING MOUF
January 23rd, 2009
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gobble gobble
January 24th, 2009
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I hope this is serious about the cheetos, I've had this idea that involves fool's gold
January 24th, 2009
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If you're going to roflcon, see if you can contract out some coding work. The Worthwhile section needs updating.
January 24th, 2009
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I see you have outgrown listening to 50's music and moved up to the 60's.
January 24th, 2009
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So who calls dibs on the title/url "breaking free from the constraints of an overly stuffy adult world where we should all play more, and have more fun"? Also, someone not getting sh*t done during the holidays? I DO NOT BELIEVE IT!
January 24th, 2009
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how about instead of drinking all the damn time banning some spam bots on the forums
January 24th, 2009
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So is your account haxed or what? Because the max I know doesn't give a sh*t about this site, let alone enough of a sh*t to get an advertising deal. I call bullsh*t.
January 24th, 2009
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Max, let me just say I appreciate the work you do here, it must be tough. (Yeah, out of character for me but I had to say it)
January 24th, 2009
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what kind of neat stuff are you adding to site profiles? it would be cool if there were more statistics. like, total comments and such. I think that would be really neat
January 24th, 2009
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there should be a feature that shows any users highest and lowest rated comment
January 28th, 2009
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there should be lists...
January 24th, 2009
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hopefully this cheetos thing will be more successful than the Borat contest or the Polyester theme night
January 24th, 2009
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But I'd have to say a lot more users participated when you actually changed the front page and added different sections like "Scientology YTMND's" and "HOLIDAYTMND's" Try adding a "breaking free from the constraints of an overly stuffy adult world where we should all play more, and have more fun YTMND's" section
January 24th, 2009
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DUID YOU HEAR KHANB DIED
January 24th, 2009
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Sh*t, I wish I knew earlier, I would have tried to get you to the bar I work at in Manhattan to get you sh*tfaced and high.
January 24th, 2009
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You're as cool as Anthony Bourdain :)
January 24th, 2009
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max doesn't do too well in the kitchen
January 24th, 2009
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I guess all he eats now is Cheetos and Rolos.
January 24th, 2009
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102nd?
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Hey, max! What happened to the development blog?
January 24th, 2009
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I LOVE PIE!! and eggs too. Also, kudos to Max for learning actionscript. I've been meaning to myself for the past 7 months but never gotten around to it.
January 24th, 2009
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hello this is Boris from Russia and we my family love ice cream we buy the Bryer vanilia every 3rd tuesday of every 4 month when it come to market. on some special time my wife she freeze yogurt made from our goat and we have ice cream made at my home yes. My daughter natalia wants flovor of straws berrys and my son he wants the exsotic chocolatee and my wife she want a mule.
February 2nd, 2009
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Delicious.
January 24th, 2009
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Please make a feature that sends a lethal electric charge through the computers of non site having downvoters. I would rob a bank to give you money to keep the site running if you did that.
January 24th, 2009
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Finally, new news. Oh, and $20 if you punch moot in the face for me.
January 24th, 2009
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Id like to have sex with mark gormley
January 24th, 2009
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Everything looks like it's coming along fine. Have fun at yer BREWHAHA. I thought about attending just to observe the social behavior of these ummmm...'basement dwellers' when they are out of their habitat. I asked gr33nscr33n if he would attend with me, but the L train doesn't run to Brooklyn on weekends and his wheelchair won't fit on my bicycle.
January 24th, 2009
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hey look a couple of queefs zzzzzzzzzzzlol what's up guys
January 25th, 2009
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Now I'm free to see the world.
January 24th, 2009
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damgerously chee--aww, f*ck it, nevermind
January 24th, 2009
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yes i just wanted an update saying stuff about cheetos and new comment system rather than an update to the site overall.
January 24th, 2009
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i love this new guy :)
January 24th, 2009
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plz give me money for my controbutitionz
January 25th, 2009
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what contributions?
January 24th, 2009
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wotsits are better than cheetos (true story)
January 25th, 2009
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Anyone else having problems with animation in the new preloader on safari? Seems like it does not animoot for me....
January 26th, 2009
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Cheetos? I'm more of a Twisties person.
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hey max, please remove "width:100%;" from the #restroom div when using the # ! layout. It screws sh*t up when using absolute positioning and causes scrollbars to be shown (Firefox 2, 3, 3.1).
January 27th, 2009
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jeeeeewwwww
January 27th, 2009
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Max, why are there still a few users left with pink names?
January 29th, 2009
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hanktherapper, gr33nscr33n, fourest, wisdumcube, pussinboots, money-hat, BTape, Chav-Slayer, fearcondom, MasterSitsu, SirLemming
January 29th, 2009
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WTF, pussinboots isn't pink anymore, he was this morning
January 27th, 2009
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OpensourceTMND.com
January 28th, 2009
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HEY MAX MAKE ME FEATURED
January 28th, 2009
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hi
January 28th, 2009
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stop using that same family guy ad, lolol
January 28th, 2009
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thanks
January 29th, 2009
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no this: http://lubsoftard.ytmnd.com/
January 28th, 2009
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motherF*CKING BEANS!
January 28th, 2009
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hey, sup. im still alive.
January 28th, 2009
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Mark Gormley could even get the girl to be in the video with him. How come when people get older their glasses get bigger and rounder?
January 29th, 2009
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Would this Cheetos thing bring in more traffic for ytmnd, if successful?
February 1st, 2009
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You would be the expert on that matter gr33nscr33n, wouldn't you?
January 31st, 2009
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I will also be making an appearance at Roflcon
January 31st, 2009
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make a favorite users/subscriptions thing, lol
January 31st, 2009
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SUB4SUB
February 1st, 2009
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There are a lot of users registered who created a name, but never logged on or done anything. Have you considered deleting all those inactive accounts?
February 1st, 2009
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so apparently we won the eBaum's war. finally.
February 1st, 2009
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lol we survived longest
February 1st, 2009
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Arnold haunts the frontpage, lol
February 3rd, 2009
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Anyone notice how lately you need a 4.3 to get on up and coming? What's with the voting inflation? All the sites probably look good with Worthwhile right next to it. You need to fix that, max. Make sure it only shows good sites, so people will realize these UaC sites are not groundbreakingly amazing. They must appear so to new users, when compared to screenshots, movie rips, and stolen GIFs in "Worthwhile YTMNDs" I know the section must be broken, and I know you must know it, max.
February 3rd, 2009
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People have mentioned it several times before, but instead of addressing it you seem to care more about making a new commenting system that allows us to reply to replies so that we're able to say "lol, 3rd" Let me reiterate the problems with the Worthwhile section now: Every site is from 2005. Almost every site is around a 3.8 rating. Almost all of them have hardly any votes or views.
February 3rd, 2009
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I know 2005 is said by some to be the "Golden Age of YTMND" But is that any reason to make every site in Worthwhile be from that year? Judging from the quality of the sites in Worthwhile now, no it really isn't. Since then, we've found new fads and thoroughly wore out fads from 2005. We've raised our standards (somewhat). We aren't as impressed at a movie rip or a stolen GIF. Now we need edits as well to make us happy.
February 3rd, 2009
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I know that rating cannot always determine how good a YTMND is. But if that's true then why settle for ~3.8? I'm guessing that any site with a high rating, say 4.00 or above can be worthwhile. That's usually about the score needed to get on Up and Coming anyway. If most of the voters have voted 5, as a rating of 4.0+ might indicate, then a site could more easily determined to be Worthwhile.
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And of course, I can see how you might like to try and give sites a "second chance" as could be your reasoning for putting up sites with low views and votes. But how can a site that hardly anyone has seen be considered "Worthwhile" until enough people have seen it? How many Worthwhile sites have people seen where they could say "Ah yes, I remember this site. Those were the days." If a site has 1,000 votes then wouldn't it more likely be Worthwhile? Each additional vote would reinforce its worthwhile quality
February 3rd, 2009
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So: Have 4.0+ sites from any year, with any amount of votes or views. Preferably a minimum number of votes of about 50 or 100 or so, just so it's more likely to be good. . . Oh, and I know another reason ratings might be so high on UaC now is because there aren't enough people to get the 350 votes necessary to get a site off UaC quickly. Hopefully this new Worthwhile section might bring in some more people as well. (Which is also why I asked if this Cheetos thing would do the same in a previous comment)
February 3rd, 2009
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hey we haven't had long comment threads in the news in a while lolol
February 3rd, 2009
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"Anyone notice how lately you need a 4.3 to get on up and coming?" It's something I've been noticing and pointing out for almost a year. People think five is the only star available. Also people seem to be more wowed by "nice edits" instead of good concepts. Sure Nitesky and fearcondom are great at photoshopping, but they don't always have good ideas and often rely on regurgitated jokes (Kool-aid man, Koen) we've seen hundreds of times already.
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Has anyone else noticed that over the last few weeks most of the sites on the top viewed are old sites that have been forum linked? Besides Pi and break up letter dramatic reading.
February 3rd, 2009
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To survive- nay, thrive- YTMND may well have to go the path of Nintendo and come out with more mainstream content, even if it makes many of us (hardcore YTMNDers?) cringe.
February 3rd, 2009
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max, you ever think about making the votes out of 10 stars instead of 5? in 2005, highest rated sites were roughly 4.40. in 2006 they were 4.50, in 2007 they were 4.60, in 2008 they were 4.70-4.76ish. see a pattern? in about another year or 2 sites will have like a 5.00 star rating (if this site even exists) so this way if it was out of 10 stars, users can vote 1-10 and maybe that will fix the problem with all the overrated sites and tone them down a bit.
February 4th, 2009
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nooo, I'm sure you remember we had 4.7 sites in 2007. We even had them in 2006, although not as often. WDSTW was made in 2007 and 60 minutes in 2006. But anyway, for a 10 star system the problem would either be the same or worse, once people get in the habit of voting 10 on everything. Someone should make a site telling people to vote 2, 3, and 4, but then people would start with that site and then nobody would see it. lol
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remember the dead
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*runs away*
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Sam Kinison really tried... there must be a copy of that bit around somewhere, um...