A Glorious Dawn

Hello friends,

Now that we're a few days in and some of the rage has settled, I figured I would update with a more complete news post and changelog for YTMND 2.0.

Users should note that there's a new contest to see how you can make use of the new YTMND template options, so far they've been mostly overlooked but they are major. Info inside.


As I mentioned previously, this recent launch required a considerable amount of work (and literal pain endured) over the last couple years. The codebase YTMND was running off of was in some places over five years old, and a terrible representation of everything I've learned since starting YTMND. While it may not seem like it at the moment, this massive code upgrade will make for a much nicer future. Now that I have a working development environment, and every page on the site is properly templated (over 30,000 lines of HTML and CSS!), working on the site is infinitely easier. I'll be updating the old TODO over the next week or so, as huge chunks of it have been implemented or resolved.


YTMND has been worked on now in some capacity for more than half a decade. I've made a nifty video using gource to visualize the work on YTMND and wrote a brief history of YTMND's code and design to go along with it. If Youtube isn't working you can always try Vimeo.

[2005-03-29] YTMND is moved into CVS. [2005-05-31] First new redesign of ytmnd.com launch (everyone thought it was terrible.) [2005-06-22] Ross Mawdsley creates 17 logos for YTMND. He says his favorites are 11 and 16 and that "17 is just a joke". [2005-07-07] New codebase launched. [2005-07-31] jon is given access to write an admin system. (sadly none of his code was ever used) [2005-11-25] first redesign for ytmnd.com made by a real designer launched (everyone thought it was terrible.) [2006-05-01] max starts working on YTMND full time. [2006-05-08] syncan is given access to write the private messaging feature. [2006-09-24] new redesign for ytmnd.com based on the YTMND star logo. (everyone thought it was terrible.) [2007-03-10] ytmnd.com's admin system started. [2008-01-05] Work on ytmnd.com's codebase is stopped. New branch is created to start a full recode and technical redesign. [2009-03-29] First comps of new YTMND design received. [2009-04-07] YTMND 2.0 development is in full effect. [2009-08-01] max starts working on YTMND part time again. [2010-02-23] 2.0 Branch is merged into main YTMND trunk (notice the large explosion.) [2010-03-24] max takes unpaid time off work to finish and launch YTMND 2.0. [2010-04-01] YTMND 2.0 launches, with a new design (everyone thought it was terrible.)

You'll notice the video goes much further than April, and some of the denoted events are a little lagged, but I think the end result is pretty nifty. For more information on the YTMND codebase, you can visit this page. Now, on to the meat.

YTMND 2.0 Changelog

Global Changes

  • Brand new design created specifically to infuriate you.
  • All URLs are now rewritten, so most pages with query strings have new, cleaner URLs.
  • All pages are now fully templated XHTML strict; all CSS, JS, etc moved to external files for speed and cleanliness.
  • All pages are now available gzipped for faster load speed.
  • YTMND has had its database completely overhauled and scrubbed, the majority of the site is now fully UTF-8 compliant.
  • Login and registration completely rewritten to be more secure and quicker.
  • All captchas changed to use Recaptcha.
  • New style for starbars.
  • All server-software updated.
  • All Javascript (except for the starbar which is dying for an update) moved to jQuery.

YTMNDs

  • YTMNDs can now have both a foreground and background image.
  • YTMND foreground and background images can have finite placement on the page (e.g. top right, bottom center, middle left etc).
  • Site descriptions, origins, etc have all had their size increased and support rich text.
  • Citations are now shown on site profiles.
  • Inbound links are now shown on site profiles so you can see where traffic to YTMNDs is coming from.
  • New version of the YTMND Flash loader has been stripped down and streamlined to be as fast as possible.
  • Logged in users will never see ads on YTMNDs, logged out users will see an ad in the bottom right with a close button.
  • No more start-delay on YTMNDs with ads.
  • Image text changed so it's only as long as it needs to be. On the old site, it would be 1000x1000px no matter what, causing all sorts of scroll issues. It's been shrunk depending on the text size.

YTMND Site Creator

  • Brand new, fully stateless YTMND creator allows you to pick up and drop off during the process of making a site at literally any point in time.
  • Very thorough file processing, which will verify and in same cases re-encode your files. For example if you upload a non-standard WAV, most of the time we can fix it for you!
  • Steps streamlined to make editing easier.
  • New preview function gives you a unique preview URL which lasts for an hour and can be sent to friends for approval.
  • You can now provide a YTMND asset id or md5 instead of uploading a file.
  • Files are uploaded with AJAX, allowing you to continue changing options while still uploading.

Rich text

  • Rich text is supported in multiple areas of the site.
  • Rich text includes bold, italic, underline, code (pre-formatted monospace), spoiler (hidden until mouseover) and user/site/asset links.
    • User/site/asset links are currently undergoing a retooling, so it's advisable to not try to use them.

Activity

  • User activity is now tracked thoroughly. This can be changed somewhat in your user preferences.
  • Site/Profile views, votes, comments, site creations/edits etc all show up in your activity page.
  • /spy is now a crapflood.

Frienemies

  • YTMND now supports friends and enemies.
  • Becoming friends or enemies with a user makes their user name change color around the site.
  • Befriending someone makes them show up in your "feed", where you can stalk them.
  • Currently making someone your enemy does nothing beyond making a statement.

Comments

  • Comments have had their size increased to 2000 characters (less if you use multibyte).
  • Comment nesting now goes to five levels, for multi-threaded conversations.
  • Longer user-names are now visible in comments.
  • Wide comments no longer push controls to the side, or break boxes.
  • Comments now have unique immutable links which can be copied from their timestamp.
  • Comments on user profiles now link to the parent comment if the comment is a reply.
  • Comment links will go directly to the page the comment is on.
  • Posting a comment on a paged site/news post will now redirect you to the page your comment appears on.

Private Message System

  • Completely rewritten from scratch.
  • Messages are now threaded, so every reply is added on to the original message, instead of copying the entire message multiple times.
  • Number of unread messages is now shown on every page.
  • No more unnecessary AJAX, each message has a full URL.
  • Removed blocked users, because no one used it and it never worked that well.
  • New option to receive an email if you get a private message (off by default to combat possible spam).
  • Messages in the "trash" older than 30 days are now automatically deleted.
  • Private messages support rich text.
  • Filters on the main mail view:
    • Quick-filters to hide read/unread messages.
    • Filter text box to filter by Sender/Subject.
  • When composing a new private message, each comma-separated username will auto-complete.

News

  • News now has an RSS feed.
  • The five news posts listed at the bottom of the news now show surrounding news posts instead of the most recent five.
  • New news page listing available at /news/list
  • News is now searchable.

Options/etc

  • Lots of options added and removed.
  • You can now change the email address associated with your YTMND account.
  • You can now retrieve a forgotten username.
  • When you use the "reset password" function, it sends you a verification mail rather than just changing your password.

User Profiles

  • All pages rewritten to make use of AJAX where applicable.
  • Default page

    • Added some basic comment statistics.
    • Now shows latest activity.

    Sites page

    • Now properly sorts on all applicable fields, sorting should also be much faster.
    • Has a default sort based on URL, e.g. /users/max/sites sorts oldest-to-newest, sites/recent is newest-to-oldest, sites/top_rated is highest-scores first.

    Comments page

    • Comments page now also shows news comments.
    • Comments now link to all associated parties/pages, e.g. the parent comment, site, news post etc.

    Lists page

    • Removed for now. RIP :(

    New user profile pages

    • Frienemies page - Gives an overview of who your friends and enemies are, as well as all "inbound" relationships.
    • Activity page - Shows your recent activity.
    • Feed page - Shows when people comment on your site, and all of your friends' activities. Sort of like a personal /spy.

Permissions System

  • A finite permissions system allows permission/punishments to be doled out for very specific actions or groups of users.

Info section

  • New "about" page, new "staff" page, new "page removal" page, etc.

Users List

  • New sections which allow you to see (Most/Least) sponsorship and Most/Best/Worst commenters.

Contests

  • New contest option to only allow new sites.
  • Contest placement is calculated based on votes between the start and end date of the contest, so old sites no longer have an advantage.

Assets Page

  • Now shows a plethora of extra information.
  • URLs can now be /assets/<asset id> in addition to /assets/<asset md5>

Keywords Page

  • Tried to make it slightly more useful and failed miserably.

Misc

  • All services (AJAX and others) now require a custom shared-secret to avoid a number of security and usability issues from the old site.
  • Passwords are now hashed before logging in so plaintext passwords are no longer sent.
  • A PayPal calculator built into the sponsorship page.
  • Hall of fame and other content boxes were dropped, as they required too much manual work to maintain, and were never very good representations of YTMND.
  • All server configuration (for php, apache, mysql etc.) has been chopped up and turned into M4 scripts so we can easily launch and move servers as needed.
  • In addition to "must be logged in" pages, we now have "must be logged out" pages, like register and login for instance.

Technical

  • Nearly the entire back end was replaced, more will be described in the future on the YTMND Dev Blog.



So you may have noticed We're running a contest to highlight the new features of the YTMND template. It uses the quot;only new sites can enter" rule that was recently added, and it hasn't been tested yet so try it out.

For those of you that have been filing bug reports and feature requests, your feedback is invaluable and I thank you. For those of you who haven't, give it a shot. I'll be working on the site to implement any outstanding features and bug fixes as often as I can, but my unpaid time is off starting tomorrow, so YTMND will be a free-time thing only again.

So there it is. I hope you like it. Even if you don't like the design, it shouldn't take nearly as long to move onto the next one as it took to get this one going, and the site is going to be seeing a lot of visual changes over the next few weeks.


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April 4th, 2010
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Also, today I'm going to try and get the collapse preferences working and figure out how best to do richtext links. If I find time I'm going to work on feeds/comments on your sites stuff.
April 4th, 2010
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Max, take a few days off and enjoy yourself. You need a break from our bitching.
April 4th, 2010
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This user has no lists page.
April 4th, 2010
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(everyone thought it was terrible.)
April 4th, 2010
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^What he said
April 4th, 2010
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Richtext links should be okay now, although they don't get verified, so make sure you don't typo. Also for those of you without bad browsers you'll notice [b]Ctrl + B[/b] [u]Ctrl + U[/u] and [i]Ctrl+i[/i] work in richtext fields. You can also highlight a chunk of text and hit control + b or click a link on the left to wrap your selected text.
April 6th, 2010
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i still can't seem to figure out linking.
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April 5th, 2010
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Also, a reminder to myself, I need to build a quick mechanism to fetch new auth codes every few minutes so people don't need to refresh the page to comment/vote if their auth code has gone stale.
April 6th, 2010
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i recommend BBcode style links. bbcode is well known these days, especially on forums.

1. [url]http://mywebsite.com[/url] (RENDERING: creates 'a' tag element, href attribute becomes whatever is between the "url" opening and closing bbcode tags, as well as being the displayed text)

2. [url=http://mywebsite.com]My cool, awesome link[/url] (RENDERING: creates 'a' tag element, href attribute becomes whatever is right of 'url=' ; display text becomes 'My cool, awesome link')
April 6th, 2010
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If you are interested, but you feel that this is too much of a hassle, I can hunt down/write up some good regular expressions that can parse the bbcoded links to conventional html links (for the browser display)
April 12th, 2010
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April 28th, 2010
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http://peopletokill.ytmnd.com/
April 4th, 2010
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Hell yeah good stuff.
April 4th, 2010
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Why the hell is johnnylurg back?
April 12th, 2010
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because Nickolodean ignored his demands to bring back cat-dog?
April 4th, 2010
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So I'm the second-most frequent commenter on the entire site? Damn.

...and I'm only over four thousand comments behind DarthWang!

( http://ytmnd.com/users/list/comments/made )
April 10th, 2010
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You'll never beat me! MWAHAHAHAHAHA!
April 4th, 2010
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Oh, another new feature is that when I delete a user all their comments and threads are properly deleted too.
April 4th, 2010
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JohnnyLurg used to be here.
April 9th, 2010
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Lurgmister used to be here.
April 5th, 2010
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aww you deleted the floating comments! some of my favorite comments were floating. :*(
April 10th, 2010
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agreed
April 10th, 2010
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What about their votes?
April 4th, 2010
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When I saw the title, I heard Sagan's voice. Thanks for making ytmnd smart, max!
April 4th, 2010
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I like YTMND 2.0 more and more everyday. Nice work.
April 4th, 2010
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hi max
April 4th, 2010
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If this is max or whoever this is.
April 4th, 2010
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I am still enraged. <3
April 4th, 2010
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[i]thanks Dave[/i]
April 4th, 2010
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bring back farkkle's old classic moon man sites so i can cherish them ove rand over and over again.
April 4th, 2010
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Are you sure that's your source code history and not just your screensaver?
April 4th, 2010
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oh...
April 4th, 2010
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[b]AOL 2.0 IS AWESUM[/b]
April 4th, 2010
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I truly appreciate the work that you and the people who helped made on this site. I believe coding is like watching a child growing up and getting healthier and stronger. I just couldn't be happier to be here, to express myself, see what other people have to say, all for free. Just like a lovely park in the middle of the city.
In the past I said I was leaving this site, not because of the site itself but because of some users. But maybe I'll give another shot. I'm proud to be a YTMND user.
April 4th, 2010
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Thank you.
April 4th, 2010
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Why don't you just blow him and get it over with.
April 4th, 2010
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What is M4 scripting and how are you replacing php/mysql with it?
April 4th, 2010
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_%28computer_language%29

I'm not replacing php/mysql, I made it so the configs are all under version control and automatically generated as needed.
April 4th, 2010
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Do you need a dedicated server for this?
April 4th, 2010
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Thanks a million, Maximilian.
April 4th, 2010
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"Removing your site from that dumb contest"
April 4th, 2010
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..also cocks
April 4th, 2010
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wait, fyrestorm is dead?
April 4th, 2010
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oh captain my captain
April 4th, 2010
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Max, sorry I insulted your new design in the last news post. I didn't mean to be that harsh. I hope you know that I love all of the rest of your new features. Though I still don't like the new design that much, lol.
April 4th, 2010
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By the way max, what are the new size limitations for YTMND's? I'm guessing Background and Foreground images have different limits right? That info would help for creating a site for the contest.
April 5th, 2010
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Just make a shit site like most of the people that have submitted contest entries, follow the crowd...my finger is getting sore from downvoting the sites that are jpeg on gif for a gif on gif contest
April 4th, 2010
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I still can't believe this is real and I hate it and also I want to know if there's a way to make the website stop tracking and displaying my every move to the world because in my opinion this is an obstacle which gets in the way of viewing the rampant child pornography on ytmnd.com thank you
April 4th, 2010
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[b][u]BOLD AND UNDERLINE MAKES ME FEEL IMPORTANT[/u][/b]
April 4th, 2010
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Alright, I won't leave for good. I'm too addicted for that. But black on black is hard to read.
April 4th, 2010
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For the record, I thought the last update was awesome and I like everything but black on white text and Ed Hardy t-shirt style graphics on the new one. Oh, and I wish my own name were a different color than 'random user' like it used to be because I only care about my own comments. That's the narcissism in me talking. It's the only thing worth listening to. Also, this is all off the record, just like last time.
April 4th, 2010
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I, like many others, really like all of the new features except for the actual design. Your past redesigns weren't unlikeable - they just took time to get used to, as most people don't like change. This redesign, however, is quite an eye-strain. I use a 720p monitor running hdmi>dvi, and for some reason, any text (no matter the color) on a red background shows up garbled and difficult to read, which includes the submit button below this comment box, as well as the entire top bar, news bar, and contest bar. I'm frustrated that this will be how YTMND will now look for me until I get a different graphics card or monitor.

Aside from that, good job and thank you for the new features. I'm excited to see how they'll be used.
April 5th, 2010
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You buy a Vizio or something?

1080p monitor on DVI and I have no issues
April 5th, 2010
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Dynex (Best Buy Brand). I never intended to use it as a computer monitor, it just kind of happened that way. It's really more of a video card issue than the fact that it's a TV, I believe.
April 4th, 2010
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Alas, we'll never know what the lists tab did.
April 4th, 2010
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i like the "all time ytmnd hits" section. it's brings back good ytmnds, and it allows me to downvote them if i wonder why they have such a high rating.
April 4th, 2010
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Off the top of my head, my favorite new features are reusing site assets, having separate background and foreground images, flash player loads everything for uniform compatibility across platforms, nested replies to comments, frenemies (might want to make it more like facebook, ie, other guy has to confirm), rich text comments.
April 4th, 2010
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The stalker mode on ytmnd.com/spy is pretty intense. I half-expect it to follow me everywhere.

egonym logged off YTMND.
egonym opened his fridge.
egonym ate peanut butter out of the jar with his finger.
egonym decided to put off homework.
egonym farted.
egonym smelled his fart.
egonym looked up an exgirlfriend on facebook.
egonym spent two hours at a porn site.
egonym cried himself to sleep.
April 4th, 2010
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We almost have the same life.
April 4th, 2010
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hanktherapper smelled egonym's fart.
April 7th, 2010
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egonym zinced his sniffer.
April 5th, 2010
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DR-L337 got laid.
DR-L337 got laid.
DR-L337 got laid.
DR-L337 got laid.
DR-L337 got laid.
DR-L337 got laid.
DR-L337 got laid.
DR-L337 nailed your sister.
DR-L337 LOL'd.
DR-L337 got laid.
DR-L337 got laid.
DR-L337 got laid.
DR-L337 got laid.
(ad infinitum)
April 30th, 2010
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comment win
April 4th, 2010
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Hey max,

Fucking sweet work, man. Way to be all over the fucking buglist. You knock out like 5+ items a day. Fantastic.
April 4th, 2010
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Oh man, I didn't even realize the foreground image didn't have to be centered until I read the changelog, can you take the word "centered" out of the contest description Max?
April 4th, 2010
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Also I thought the background had to be tiled, maybe I should've tried out the new site creator before thinking up this contest.
April 4th, 2010
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Keep up the good work and thanks for making ytmnd better.
April 5th, 2010
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+ :)

(not a nurse)
April 5th, 2010
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You guys not mad at each other anymore?
April 4th, 2010
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Max: Zapping tree diagrams with different colored lasers since 2005
April 4th, 2010
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i can't get a lot of stuff to work. maybe this is all incompatible with chrome? I can't plus/minus comments, I can't click the reply button on comments, I can't upload ytmnds... and apparently i can't submit this comment. having to copy it over to firefox now.
April 4th, 2010
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but not to be picky. awesome work. it's just the entire site seems to be utterly useless for people using chrome.
April 4th, 2010
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Everything is working for me, yet I am using Chrome
April 5th, 2010
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You aren't the first person to mention it, and I can't reproduce any problems on Chrome.

First try clearing your cache completely. Second, help me out by giving me your OS and Chrome version (little wrench icon on the right -> About Google Chrome). That will also let you know if you need an update.

I tested on IE8, Firefox 3.6, Chrome 4.1.249.1045 (42898), Opera 10.5 and Safari 4.0.4 (531.21.10). I noticed on mobile Safari (which is also a webkit browser like Safari and Chrome) lots of stuff looks broken, but I'm assuming it's because mobile Safari needs an update.

Another helpful thing you could do is on open the Chrome developer console (Ctrl+Shift+I or Ctrl+Shift+J) at the bottom left there's an icon which looks like a > with 3 lines next to it. It will turn blue when it's open. Screenshot that on a page that isn't working and it will show you if there are any errors on the page (which is probably the cause of your issue). If I can reproduce the error, I can fix it, or at least try to backport a patch to the code.

This goes for anyone having issues for Chrome, not just Keaton. I'd really like to get this all worked out before I start adding new features/resolving feature requests.
April 5th, 2010
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Works fine on my iPhone, obviously Flash doesn't work, but that's expected
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April 7th, 2010
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chrome version: 5.0.342.8 beta (it's as up to date as you can get I think)
But that developer console isn't showing any errors.

and clearing the cache fixed everything apparently. SO NEVER MIND
April 4th, 2010
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I don't know. Light text on black background hurts my eyes. Reminds me of the early 2000's like when sites like Stileproject used to do it, but if you haven't noticed, all sites post 2005ish stop'd using light text and dark backgrounds for the hard of seeing.

I'll probably stop visiting the site as frequent simply because my eyes don't agree or at least stop reading

Actually this guy writes it much more eloquently about his eye problems as well:

http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200608/light_text_on_dark
_background_vs_readability/
April 4th, 2010
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And I didn't mean all sites but all mainstream sites like say CNN, BBC etc.
April 6th, 2010
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Oh and if like the new layout really badly, I'd think it would be awfully nice to the hard of seeing to have the option to switch to light background and dark text.
April 4th, 2010
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I had fun with my black name while it lasted, i mean i just created this profile so i could have a black name. did not plan on ever making anything, maby just a modest coment every couple months. At least i still have my badass black on black tshirt.
April 4th, 2010
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Looks like the Black Hand has been disbanded. Probably CABAL's doing.
April 4th, 2010
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this looks like a WoW patch update. although I did like the video
April 5th, 2010
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[2008-01-05] Work on ytmnd.com's codebase is stopped. New branch is created to start a full recode and technical redesign.

That part of the video was awesome
April 5th, 2010
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Also, what's the song in the video?
April 6th, 2010
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whatever was used for some Carl Sagan video on youtube.
April 5th, 2010
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[i]Oh man[/i] [b]my pants[/b][i][b]are tight[/i][/b]
April 5th, 2010
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Moisturity occurs!
April 5th, 2010
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April 5th, 2010
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this site is beautiful!
April 5th, 2010
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RSS feed for news page is broken.
April 5th, 2010
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Nice work max. The only thing I would like to see added is the ability to set your own CSS style sheet (either upload or link to it) . I think it would be cool to allow users to change the layout on an individual basis. Then people could share their designs :)
April 5th, 2010
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ytmnd.geocities.com. max, just give us free web hosting.
April 5th, 2010
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Will need to test out the new model ytmnd before i judge it. But from initial looks, its one ugly mofo max
April 5th, 2010
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It's cool, but mods please?
April 5th, 2010
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fucking thing sucks
August 25th, 2010
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tkx7 shot himself to death after making this comment. true story.
April 5th, 2010
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[u][b][i]richtexts[/i][/b][/u] is fun
April 5th, 2010
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I love the way it looks Max.......I guarantee it!
April 5th, 2010
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What the hell is going on. I thought both the ytmnd and new youtube layouts were some freak april fool's jokes. Well the jokes have gone far enough. Please revert to old style, at least the layout. And youtube, I can't believe you removed ratings. How am I supposed to filter through all the bullshit. I hate my life.
April 6th, 2010
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Max, you f-cking roooned your site! Or thought I a couple days ago.. It's ok, and I guess it doesn't use as much monitor energy.
April 6th, 2010
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So this really isn't an april fools joke?

well fuck
April 6th, 2010
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k i like all the new ymtnd you made, max. This is the first time in like half a year that i didnt just close the tab within one second of arriving at the front page.
April 6th, 2010
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niggas
April 6th, 2010
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Except this layout is actually terrible. New features are cool but this design looks like vomit.
April 6th, 2010
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It is absolutely hilarious to see how many people search "boob" on a daily basis.
April 6th, 2010
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I'm having a problem getting the site to work on my abacus.
April 6th, 2010
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Fucking...just give me the original color scheme back...then I'll be...complacent.

At least if I could make it [i]look[/i] the same as it was before, then my rage would subside a bit.
April 6th, 2010
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How about a way to set old sites with problems to display the old way
April 6th, 2010
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Do you mean with regards to sound issues, or is there some other problem you are having with sites displaying?
April 6th, 2010
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Sites that use .wav files still have pitch downshifted
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April 7th, 2010
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Yeah, the sound, I've been having a number of sound problems with the classic ytmnds. Sorry to keep harping on it
April 6th, 2010
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Net Neutrality has been ruled against. Well guys, it's been fun.
April 7th, 2010
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...and it will continue to be, in spite of leftist hysteria
April 8th, 2010
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[b]TUBES[/b]
April 6th, 2010
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Max you really need to bring back the once per hour posting limit. We have faggots like Lurgmiser (johnnylurg) posting random shit every 30 seconds. I would be pissed if I had actually worked on a site and had it bumped into oblivion because of garbage like this.
April 8th, 2010
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Better solution: delete people who post more than once per hour.
April 8th, 2010
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touche sir
April 8th, 2010
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Anig, you're just trying to piss me off again, aren't you? But I actually agree with you now.
April 14th, 2010
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He's back yet again. This time under the names TommyLeeGatz, FIREJOSE, and RodneyMunch.
April 7th, 2010
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dear god, I've made 12,905 comments putting me in 6th for highest number of comments on this website. Shameful.
April 7th, 2010
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I've only made about 3,500 v_v
April 7th, 2010
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You've got yourself a novel right there.
April 8th, 2010
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gotta thank Umfuld for helping you reach that peak
April 8th, 2010
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Fun fact: I have averaged 10 comments every day over the last 3.5 years.
April 8th, 2010
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I haven't even broke the 10,000 mark.
April 7th, 2010
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Max, how dare you improve the website!
April 7th, 2010
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KHAAAAN
April 8th, 2010
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I'd really like to suggest that you add different page schemes under user preferences. Classic and 2.0 for starters.

I'm not going to lie, the dark patterned look reminds me of an emo's myspace page.
April 9th, 2010
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Infuriation setting in... cannot get beyond choosing domain name... no actual spaces provided beyond choosing domain name... anyone give advice? Am apparently technologically retarded.
April 9th, 2010
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I'm weirdly honored to be fourest's only enemy. Possibly because I'm the only one who's been coming to this site long enough to remember why he sucks.
April 10th, 2010
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Why is everything so dark? Oh well, nobody gives a shit about YTMND anymore. This is only a barren wasteland.
April 10th, 2010
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I like the new layout.. I am but a mediocre YTMNDer - I am not funny, but I am not bad either. I feel that it is my duty to represent my opinion of the "Average Browser" demographic
April 10th, 2010
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Thanks for adding the "recent comments on your sites" section, along with the "recent replies to your comments" section. Very convenient.
April 10th, 2010
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Screw you for beating me by 48 seconds.
April 12th, 2010
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:'(
April 10th, 2010
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I dig the new comment section update. [+]
April 11th, 2010
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Max, are we going to see a renaissance of YTMND? The last time we have a Golden Age of YTMND was back in 2006, and every corner but YTMND died out after the goldne age faded.
April 11th, 2010
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For things like that to happen, MANY more people have to show up. MANY people will also have to devote some talent to making YTMND's.
April 12th, 2010
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And many more people have to not hate the absolutely disgusting website design.

Max, I know you're a coder, and not a designer, but the basic principle of designing something is to ask yourself "does this fit what the message is?"

The message of YTMND should be to be funny. It should not be checkered gray and black BS on top or elaborate gray and black wallpaper with grey text on top of that and pink stars. That doesn't imply humor, that implies a complete lack of taste in design and any coherent concept of what you're doing.
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April 12th, 2010
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Also before I forget, are custom front page lists gone for good? ( i miss recently created being on the left and the last 30
April 12th, 2010
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Why wont you be my friend max?
April 13th, 2010
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Very nice work, but I gotta say the new theme looks like a Gothic water closet... 'Twould be nice to have a choice of skins..
April 13th, 2010
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Haha, you know April Fool's is over, right Max? Your site looks like it went to hot topic and while there some emo fag slit his wrists and bled all over it, then it bought some fishnets and eyeliner.

So my eyes are now fully raped and emo'd. I'm not going to continue to take it. See you when you unfuck your site.
April 13th, 2010
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why not make it complete and get your ears raped too?: http://funnycat.ytmnd.com/
April 14th, 2010
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Max, I do not like the web design treatment to the site. There are a shit ton of new features that you have put into it, but I think it's far too busy to explore them all. Im a fan of clean design and this site would do well to incorporate a modern treatment. Web 2.0 is a nonsensical term, but to me it just means clean design and good user interface utility. I like the two column approach, similar to the structure of my old design at -- http://nutnics.com/ytmnd/ -- other than that, I'm just bombarded with detail every time I visit a section of the site.

I'd love to help skin this if you want, just give me sample page and I can apply the styling. You should want the content stand out (the sites) not the site if that makes any sense, well to me the sites provide the color, and the ytmnd can provide the stage.
April 15th, 2010
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I vote for this. Please let nutnics do this, he hasn't just articulated what everyone has been saying (and thinking) perfectly and in a friendly way, but he is offering to help make it better with his known professional expertise.

I've only been here for two years and I'm really not ready to see ytmnd die, especially just because people didn't like the way the site looked. I still have a lot of creative energy and free time, and now users I've become friends with seem to be leaving for youtube or anywhere else to continue their work. I can't move on and go somewhere else, it's cold out there.
April 18th, 2010
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My absolute stupid comment is that the new design is shit . The old style was perfect, one can´t improve a perfect style Max. And one can´t find anything here anymore it´s a torture to surch for new stuff, yea i know if i don´t like it i´ve to fuck off....don´t worry bitches that´s exactly what i´m doing
April 19th, 2010
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Listen to nutnics. His design is pleasant and clean. And [i]professional[/i].

I can't articulate how much I dislike the new design without going on another rant. Some of the new back-end features might be nice, but they're useless without a decent UI. I'm honestly considering pulling all my content from this website, and I've submitted a lot under other aliases other than blommer.

I can't stand the look of this place.
June 2nd, 2010
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I like the new classy look. And the fecklessness of your gay threat made me chuckle.
May 13th, 2010
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So did this go anywhere? Somebody please tell me nutnics and max have been discussing this behind the scenes.
May 16th, 2010
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aint shit goin on on my end, should i just hack this shit and make a comp?
May 17th, 2010
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yes please do

hack the internet!
April 14th, 2010
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"ytmnttpd", is that really a server that you programmed or just a source code hack?
April 15th, 2010
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186th!
April 15th, 2010
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where is the damn check box for syncing audio???? i cant find it since the chance :(
April 17th, 2010
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Oh god, I haven't been on here for almost 5 years. It's changed a lot.
January 18th, 2014
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yes. and oo, its been 4 years since you made this comment! Spied you on spy, wubber chubber ;)
April 18th, 2010
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buy this background image now at http://www.bradbury.com
April 18th, 2010
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The new design is shit . The old style was way better , and one can´t find new stuff here in this dark shithole, i even posted my first comment somwhere into the fucking cyberspace as fodder for the trolls .There are so many shitty faults in this new surch options , one can find nothing anymore where the fuck is the new stuff ?? Do i have to fight through a bunch of 5000 garbage vids till i can find a good one from now on? If i use the advanced surch mode i only get a fragment of the content. The old system was perfect, i only had to watch the icon and i knew if it was worth watching or not and the new stuff was at the end of the domain where it should be
April 19th, 2010
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it's "search"
April 19th, 2010
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Yes...SEARCH....thanks
April 18th, 2010
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btw, am I ever going to get my t-shirt?
April 23rd, 2010
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0% Guarantee

Whatchu gonna do brother
April 18th, 2010
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Wow marvfad.ytmnd.com was viewed 16,777,211 times this week
April 19th, 2010
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[spoil]Snape kills Dumbledore[/spoil]
April 19th, 2010
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Also, [spoil]200th[/spoil]
April 19th, 2010
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I can't leave comments on my favorited sites. I am mad. FIX IT!!!
April 19th, 2010
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I held off on my hatin' of the new design for quite some time, tried to give it a chance, but it's no use. This design just makes no visual sense whatsoever.
April 19th, 2010
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There is only one rational explanation for the new design ---Max is hating us
April 20th, 2010
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WHO ONE THE TEE SHIRT CONTEST???
April 20th, 2010
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Haha, Youtube and YTMND, you do know April Fool's is over, right? You can go back to your functional stylish layouts that actually looked nice and make sense now.

Please?
April 21st, 2010
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No results found for "penis copter".
April 23rd, 2010
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RIP typogra et al :(
April 24th, 2010
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:(
April 24th, 2010
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Goddammit! I hate you directory for doing this.
April 25th, 2010
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Please, don't disappear...
April 26th, 2010
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I am spacing out with you...
April 26th, 2010
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holy shit. what the fuck. classic sites down the drain. relive memories here: http://chasm.ytmnd.com/
April 26th, 2010
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actually: [site typogra:site] (someone is apparently reserving the howdoesitmakeyoufeel domain because I can't grab it)
April 26th, 2010
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I managed to recover 5 of them and have posted them all.
April 23rd, 2010
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a couple of years and this is the best you can do? i like the new features, but the color and back ground are the gayest crap i've ever seen. The older design was better. Glorious dawn? yeah right, i couldve made a better site with my ass cheeks. This is more like an end of an era, a dynasty at its nadir.
April 25th, 2010
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what happened to click_here_to_harvest_his_skittles.ytmnd.com?
April 26th, 2010
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Hey Max, thanks for the "all time ytmnd hits" section. It's like a never-ending nostalgia parade.
April 28th, 2010
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Hey I just noticed we can see recent replies to our comments! Nice
April 28th, 2010
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awesome
April 29th, 2010
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http://wonder-tonic.com/geocitiesizer/content.php?theme=1&music=9&
amp;url=www.ytmnd.com
April 29th, 2010
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After a month of 2.0, I must admit that I'm enjoying the new YTMND. The background/foreground option is phenomenal, and the frienemies list makes cyberstalking fun and easy. I love the new comment rating system, and the UI design changes don't even annoy me anymore. Great job Max!
Here are my only complaints, and I don't believe they have been mentioned. First, when I try to view a site's assets and the file type is .jpg, I always get a 404 file not found error. Also, I wish that the comments still showed when someone has FAV'd the site on which they are commenting.
April 29th, 2010
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I wish I could easily tell what I voted on a site, but the color scheme is all wrong.
May 10th, 2010
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I noticed the same thing with the jpg images. I always have to take the e out of "jpeg"
May 1st, 2010
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make it to where i can see who fav'd my sites. kthxbai
May 10th, 2010
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2nd. Also, fix the API
May 4th, 2010
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M'yeah, I don't know where I should go with this, so I'll just leave it here.

Since the layout change, I haven't been able to view about 80% or so of YTMND sites. Which ones work and which don't seems random, but it seems to happen no matter what computer or broswer I use. I made an account to see if it solved the problem, but it's still showing up. Is anyone else having this problem? Failing that, where can I submit bug reports?
May 5th, 2010
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http://wiki.ytmnd.com/YTMND_2.0_Bugs
May 8th, 2010
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I got exactly the same problem, nothing works here anymore
May 11th, 2010
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pretty sweet
May 12th, 2010
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Are you ever going to fix the 16,777,062 views glitch?
May 14th, 2010
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Why the fuck can't I edit my pages anymore?
May 22nd, 2010
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johnnylorg just filled up the whole recently created section with mr.krabs sites. can you ban this idiot please?
May 24th, 2010
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Here is a list of johnnylurg's usernames that I have compiled so far.

johnnylorg, rodneymunch, lurgmiser, Tommyleegatz, firejose, and he managed to get his old sn johnnylurg back too.

Can we [b]PLEASE[/b] do something about this asshole? He just filled up the entire recently created with his stupid garbage. He did the same thing yesterday. It's no wonder people stopped putting any eoffrt into making ytmnds anymore. To put any effort into a site to have it bumped off by this shit, would piss me off to no end.
May 26th, 2010
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Nice update Max. Sucks you didn't get in as a judge on the ANDY awards, I woulda had a chance to get you some Grey Goose and a transvestite hooker.
May 28th, 2010
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Does the preview function work and I just don't get it? Also, my sites aren't really syncing. I know that can vary from machine to machine and browser to browser on the same one, but gif and audio assets match yet they don't play right for me. hughdavidson.ytmnd.com and ageofconsent.ytmnd.com. And since I don't know how to preview before posting it's a bit frustrating. That second one, Supe's mouth moves on the 20th frame - .05 each frame. One second in. But every time I play it he starts to talk within 1/10th to 2/10ths. And then each gif loop is playing about half a second too quick. I tried to adjust it then it was half a second behind. Very possible I'm just screwing something up. I don't know.
May 28th, 2010
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Made another site at only 10 FPS and that one plays fine.
May 28th, 2010
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Changed the others to 10 FPS and now they work. Using Firefox so figured it could handle faster speeds. Guess it can't. Sorry if I missed this posted somewhere else but lot of crap I don't care about to read.
June 2nd, 2010
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Great work on the new layout Max. All the people complaining need to really get out of the house and get laid or something, mabye buy a hooker or something. It seems like they are taking it way too personal. Thanks for keeping the site up all these years and giving us a place to express ourselves.
June 2nd, 2010
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lol
June 3rd, 2010
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lol
June 5th, 2010
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MAX DOESN'T CARE ABOUT YTMND PEOPLE
June 5th, 2010
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HAI MACKS! THE PROBLEM WITH THIS WEBSITE ISN'T THAT IT NEEDS SOME FANCY PANTS NEW HOT TOPIC BANDANA LOOKING LAYOUT. IT NEEDS SOME FUCKING MODERATION. GET PTKFGSMASTER2MARYO TO DO IT, GET ME TO DO IT, GET SOMEONE TO DO IT. I'VE STOPPED MAKING SITES BECAUSE OF SPAMMERS. SO HAVE OTHER QUALITY USERS. I'M ONLY YELLING AT YOU IN CAPS BECAUSE APPARENTLY YOU DONT LOG IN MORE THAN ONCE A MONTH OR YOU JUST DONT LISTEN. YOU HAD THE RIGHT IDEA 3 FUCKING YEARS AGO. THESE GUYS ARE WAY WORSE THAN DOWNVOTERS.
June 8th, 2010
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http://ytmnd.com/users/Afrotech/sites

Marty's brother (at the end of BttF): WHEN THE HELL DID THIS HAPPEN? WHY AM I ALWAYS THE LAST ONE TO KNOW ABOUT THESE THINGS?!
June 8th, 2010
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Did you even know he changed most of his sites to square waves a year ago?
June 9th, 2010
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Yeah I noticed that. I figured the sites's old assets might possibly be recovered via the YTMND API. I didn't know it'd actually go this far, though.
June 9th, 2010
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Yeah this happened quite a while ago. It's sad really. Someone broke into his account and he never came back. He most likely tied a rock to his legs and jumped off a bridge afterwards. I hope ariel found him.
June 9th, 2010
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If you ever need help with moderating this place, and I don't mean clicking NSFW or whatever it is the current and past mods did, I mean real help - banning spamming and cheating trolls, let me know. Would be happy to help. What would you have to lose if you started doing that? Oh, they come back? Ban them again. You're not banning the person you're banning the behavior, which if they want to continue, will always be obvious regardless of ip. 4chan uses the ban hammer.
June 9th, 2010
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Though I say that and I think of the regular 'real' users and just how they can't be bothered to be part of the process of using the vote system (mainly on Recently Created) to recommend or not whether a site is worth clicking on (because if you can't vote 5 on something just don't vote, ever) and I would probably share your apathy. I read that Own Worst Enemy thing a lot and from my own experiences with stuff like that it's so right on. The core group here (at least the one from when I came here - maybe not the early days one) never got it. And it's been 5+ years, safe bet they never will and so just aren't really worth the effort. But who knows who will be here tomorrow? Maybe they'd enjoy some minimal moderation.
June 9th, 2010
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Do that and Umfuld will ban everyone he hates.
June 11th, 2010
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Not true, Eric. I hate almost all of you but have no desire to see you all banned.
June 11th, 2010
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That guy koolstride just downvoted my site off up and coming with 2 accounts. Well, that was my mistake for taking the time to make a YTMND, wasn't it? Because I was already well aware no one is going to stop him from doing that. So, I'm stupid. Tell me something I don't know.
June 11th, 2010
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Couple of weeks ago had a site #2 on UnC hours after I posted it. Dude downvoted it (and everything else on UnC) with 3 or 4 accounts - no one saw the site after that. Maybe if I'd emailed Macks he would have locked dude's alt accounts but the votes would still be there and the site would still be killed. And I really don't think he wants me emailing him several times a day about that stuff. But there are a lot of people here who would love to help stop stuff like that. Hank. Me. ... ... I'm sure there are others.
June 17th, 2010
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I have offered to help numerous times but... well, max hates us, Umfuld. And I haven't been around much since April 1 anyway.
June 9th, 2010
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agreed
June 9th, 2010
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not with you pde but with umfuld saying this place needs moderation
June 11th, 2010
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"Who needs moderation?"

- Max

http://ytmnd.com/sites/901323/profile/c5654804#c5654804
June 11th, 2010
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I'm surprised nobody else has, so I have to ask, how much time did you spend making the damn video?
June 16th, 2010
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http://code.google.com/p/gource/
June 11th, 2010
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Max, what happened to the user who made this comment (his name doesn't show up): http://ytmnd.com/sites/888888/profile/c5561189#c5561189
June 17th, 2010
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so max, when it says "Online now" in your profile page, that means you're not online, right?
July 12th, 2010
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Here you have, Max. 9 days after the new YTMND layout (also 6 years after start of YTMND) Polish President died in a plane crash. YouTube and Wikipedia also fucked them up. The best way would be (my opinion):
* Old layout
* Foreground and background.

Eh... since Safety Not Guaranteed is still a mystery, we won't be able to go back in time and convice you.
July 16th, 2011
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test
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