Work song
posted by max on August 12, 2008 at 05:20:35 PM
Hello my pretties. It's been a busy few weeks for me, learning Flash and Actionscript has been fairly miserable, but I am chugging along and am ready to give you all a preview of the new YTMND template.
Take a peek at the future after the "break".
Please note this is in its early stages, and the UI and a good portion of the functionality will change, so this would be a good point in time to provide feedback and "constructive" criticism.
I am sure some of you are confused about a lot of the features, so I will go over each briefly, the layout is really up in the air and I am a terrible designer but keep in mind, some of these features are aimed both at seasoned YTMND users and the average passer-by.
For those of you who haven't been paying attention, in addition to the above buttons, this player adds some other major improvements:
There are still some big concerns for me, which I have yet to research heavily. One of the biggest, is the inability to control your browser while in a Flash app. This means opening new tabs, refreshing, bookmarking, etc. is all broken without using browser menus in some browsers. This probably won't be fixed soon outside of hacks (it's been a "critical" bug in Firefox since 2001.).
There's still a pretty big TODO list for the template, but it is getting there, despite my ever growing hatred for Flash. I think at launch I am going to move the old template rather than replace it, so users will still be able to view YTMNDs in the original template for those of you that fear the various pages and fads that take advantage of the current UI placements.
Anyway, I really need your feedback, design ideas, what you think is important here. Outside of a few very helpful people this has been a fairly lonely project. Also, for those of you who actually know humans in real life and use "social networking", I finally got around to making a YTMND "Facebook page" where you can all gather and do whatever it is people do on "social networking" sites. If any of you want to be an admin and take over organizing it, send me a private message here on YTMND.
Take a peek at the future after the "break".
Please note this is in its early stages, and the UI and a good portion of the functionality will change, so this would be a good point in time to provide feedback and "constructive" criticism.
I am sure some of you are confused about a lot of the features, so I will go over each briefly, the layout is really up in the air and I am a terrible designer but keep in mind, some of these features are aimed both at seasoned YTMND users and the average passer-by.
| The YTMND logo will function as a "smart" back button. When a user visits a YTMND from off-site, this button will link back to www.ytmnd.com, when a user visits a YTMND from somewhere on YTMND (e.g. search results, a user's profile, the digest, etc,) clicking the logo will take you back to the page you were previously viewing. |
| The question mark makes its return as the button which opens up the "info box", which I might add is currently devoid of organization or design, so don't get too concerned about it yet |
| The comments button will give you a direct link to the site's profile/comments section for quick access. |
| This button allows the user to do a forced-resynchronization of the sound and image when needed. It is currently a bit finicky, so it stops both sound and image, and then 1 second later starts them from the beginning. The final version will display a status indicator and the restart button will be disabled during the restart phase. |
| This button allows you to take advantage of Flash's true full-screen mode, which takes up 100% of the screen real estate and also provides hardware accelerated rendering. Hopefully this will mean the end of GIF synch issues. |
![]() | The sound control is like any other "movie player"; click toggles muting, mouse-over brings up a volume slider for finite control.
For those of you who haven't been paying attention, in addition to the above buttons, this player adds some other major improvements:
- True gapless playback for both WAV and MP3 files, no more Quicktime, no more broken sound, no more compatibility issues.
- Asynchronous asset loading, images and sound files are loaded at the same time.
- No more browser-specific issues, flash works pretty much the same in every browser. Maybe we can get rid of (refresh) for real now.
- Better image placement: at launch the template will allow you to tile, or give a specific area to place the image (e.g. top left, top middle, top right, etc.)
There are still some big concerns for me, which I have yet to research heavily. One of the biggest, is the inability to control your browser while in a Flash app. This means opening new tabs, refreshing, bookmarking, etc. is all broken without using browser menus in some browsers. This probably won't be fixed soon outside of hacks (it's been a "critical" bug in Firefox since 2001.).
There's still a pretty big TODO list for the template, but it is getting there, despite my ever growing hatred for Flash. I think at launch I am going to move the old template rather than replace it, so users will still be able to view YTMNDs in the original template for those of you that fear the various pages and fads that take advantage of the current UI placements.
Anyway, I really need your feedback, design ideas, what you think is important here. Outside of a few very helpful people this has been a fairly lonely project. Also, for those of you who actually know humans in real life and use "social networking", I finally got around to making a YTMND "Facebook page" where you can all gather and do whatever it is people do on "social networking" sites. If any of you want to be an admin and take over organizing it, send me a private message here on YTMND.
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Absolutely fantastic, max. Just make sure that the buttons/description window aren't too big or in the way. Also, it would be cool if each user could customize how their pages look (for example, only show the ? button and the fullscreen button instead of all of them, or just not show the volume button). And when I clicked on the ? button I couldn't type in the comment box for whatever reason until I clicked on it again. But yeah, customization potential is huge (unless I really have no idea how flash works)
I've been playing around with the gif - > avi conversion.
Honestly, doing the convertion in flash at run time is a bit odd. Sure, you don't risk any type of overrun/injection attacks, but it seems like a painful way to go about it. This also keeps all the old content in a legacy format wasting a ton of space.
So far, I'm having some issues with frames. Even if you do come up with an action hack... a server side component will still be handy to convert content to a uniform and compact content.
max: Does this mean that all of our sites will have YOU'RE THE MAN NOW DOG superimposed over the top of them now because you really hijacked typogra's site there something wicked. max: Is there going to be a feature implemented that will automatically translate the audio from our sites into subtitles that will run below the site because I'm going to be using a lot of Russian music and I can't understand what the hell they are saying.
max: Is there going to be any compensation system implemented for views and votes because I've stolen some pretty awesome stuff from 4chan recently and I don't want to waste it right now when I can totally get paid for it later. max: Is there going to be any way for me to steal assets from other sites without downloading them manually and then uploading them again because that's really tedious and I'd much rather just type in the domain of the content I want to steal. Thanks.
Hey Max. I've got the latest version of Firefox and I've got a problem. Whenever I try to reload the page with the little button, the animation keeps going, but the music stops. I have waited (at least 30 seconds), but it won't come up. Fullscreen looks great though, and if this gets perfected, I see a whole lot of YTMND's looking a lot better in the future
Hope this helps max, sorry Fyrestorm duped you...douchebag troll.
Damn, I was hoping he really did kill himself using someone else's suicide letter. Your friends and family find out you off'ed yourself then find a note thinking they'll at least get an explanation then find out the letter has nothing to do with them. Best suicide ever. Alas, it wasn't real, truth isn't always stranger than fiction :( Now I'm bored and going to kill myself.
Well, max, there's generally less than 200 users online at any given moment. What I think might be cool is a statistics box of where I stand in the list of users that are actually active. Sites, site rating, signup date, everything just like the extant users page, except covering active users. And you could determine what qualifies for 'active.' I trust your judgement. And once again, I'd like to thank you for hours of entertainment and education, max. I ask you again to consider appearing on the Col
Awww Umfuld is cool
I call him on the phone sometimes, we often discuss puppets and make jokes about England. Sometimes late at night, he eats potato chips... but I don't eat them because I am a vegetarian o_O
I think he should be allowed to comment.... He says things that are funny, especially over the phone... because he has a North-East accent.... o_O
I also got everyone of my friends to say sports... at least once, on discussing Umfulds infatuation with SPORTS.... I am going to marry Teknorat <3
BTW greenscreen, no. I didn't do anything else. Max told Nyeusigrube he was tired of people complaining about my comments. Even though I don't communicate with many YTMNDers I've had several tell me that my comments are their favorite thing about YTMND. The truth is it probably had something to do with me commenting that faking someone's death (and having that person's friends experience real grief over it) wasn't cool, but that then lying and pretending he wasn't in on it was 1000x gayer and I don't see how anyone could have any respect for him anymore. Anyway, I'm done. Goodbye everyone I don't hate. Both of you!
The more I think about it, I think Umfuld made all those Batman sites is because he secretly thinks of himself as the Batman of ytmnd. He's the hero that ytmnd deserves, but not the one it needs right now... and so we'll hunt him... because he can take it... because he's not a hero... he's a silent guardian, a watchful protector... the Dark Nitwit.
My favorite ytmnd behavior is the one where a user claims adamently that they don't give a f*ck what people think of them and then proceeds to demonstrate beyond a shadow of a doubt how much they really do care by not being able to walk away. Go do something you like instead of haunting around here, if you really don't care anymore. Otherwise you're just fourest or JoshCube when you envision yourself like State-of-mind or Adverb.
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As far as this flash layout goes,
mad props.
I read someone else wrote to add the "mouse idle, fade buttons" deal, which was my first idea.
Second, I feel that there is something wrong with the ytmnd logo in the corner. I think that you should find a way to incorporate the 45 degree triangle corner deal. I don't mean change the function, I like the question mark. I just think there is something wrong with the logo.
one more comment to go...
My one last piece is the loader. The way it fills up the stars and then goes all bright and sparkly is kinda rough. maybe smooth it up a bit and add a tiny delay before the ytmnd starts and when the load completes, so it's not just a quick flash of the complete ytmnd symbol. Unless, of course, this is what you're going for.
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alphabetagaga.ytmnd.com.... max I want a red comment like Keaton.... begging worked for him.... wait, he's featured.... and he makes better sites.... so I guess....er.....just forget about it. But hey, I really would post a site of me singing Left Bank if the flower puppy and Alpha Beta Gaga made it back on the frontpage. That's how it started.... that's how Alpha Beta Gaga became my all-time favorite song. I think the puppy also had something to do with it.
Last night I had a dream that I cut part of one of my teeth off, then the whole thing came out. Then the one next to it fell out too, and then the next one. I was thinking "F*ck I hope this is a dream" and then like 5 seconds later I woke up. I believe I also had 3 other f*cked up dreams last night as well (no play on words there). I like sharing these kinds of things with people I don't know because if I told people that I know, I'd get laughed at. I can't wait to see the new YTMND! What should I sing nex
I'm not on my normal rig lately as I'm on the road with just a crappy iBook from like six years ago instead. But I upgraded FF3 the other day and it's been sh*t. It has all the QT plug-ins and all, yet I can still only hear about every other site. Plus, I hate all the new url "suggestion" bullsh*t. I'm tempted to deinstall it and go back to 2.
Looks nice, Max. Are there any ways that Flash can detect desktop resolution and shape/size the text to match? My monitor is set to 1280 x 800, and in full screen mode the text is pushed up and to the left, as seen here: http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/512/ytmndrl8.jpg. There are a few YTMNDs out there that depend on precise positioning of the text.
Hey Max,
Great start. One thing you may want to think about is adding an embedding function to individual YTMND's. That way people can share them throughout the web. You may also want to consider creating a "share this" button that carries with the media, so that people who see the individual YTMND's can share them without ever having to visit site.
Also, your full screen icon bleeds into the background, making it hard to "read".
