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merry christmas amigos,

I know I haven't made much fanfare of this holiday season. I forgot to put up the Holiday YTMNDs section, I didn't even add any sparkly decorations to the front page. I know I always talk about how busy I am, but I've been spending a good deal of time reflecting on YTMND's history and future. I was thinking about doing up some big "ghosts of YTMND past, present, and future" deal but instead I'll just get right to the meat of it, plus I'm hungry.


The last month has been bizarre to say the least. I had dinner with moot the other night. Turns out we face a lot of similar issues. Neither of us makes any money and have hundreds of thousands of people who take us for granted. This made me feel a bit better about YTMND's situation, but it also really got me thinking about what YTMND will be in five years, or even five months for that matter.

It's been a almost eight months since I've updated the TODO list. In that time I've spent hundreds if not thousands of hours discussing various pieces of YTMND with just about anyone willing to discuss it. One of the major themes, and the bits I get the most criticism for is the moderation system (or lack thereof).

One thing I've slowly realized over the last few months is that when I started, I really had no clear idea of what the goals of a good moderation system really were. I had designed a grandiose system with hundreds of complex doodads and widgets, but for what? I'm trying hard not to mention Shirky's article, but I keep going back to it.

The main focus of the moderation system was to make sure sites were always moderated and classified properly, but that doesn't really matter at all. I have poured a huge amount of my time and resources that have been poured into a system that does all of the wrong things really well. One thing I've learned from a decade of making dumb websites is that you need to know when it is easier to scrap something and start from scratch than it is to change it to do what you want.

So that being said, I have updated the TODO (and even made a parser that makes a "pretty version") in a massive way. Over 1000 lines added, 55,000 characters of every idea I have had, heard or thought was worth remembering in the last year, as well as a large amount of information I'm publishing in hopes that we can start a dialogue on how the site should be.

This is your christmas gift from me. You have the chance to decide how YTMND will turn out. The time for criticism, bickering and general mockery is over friends. If you have any fondness left for YTMND, now is the time to speak up and help to decide where to go from here. I can't (and won't) do it alone.

So over the next week, check out the TODO, and spend some time thinking about the pieces that are most important or relevant to you. Comment on things you want or don't like. Be constructive. Be a productive member of society, because as soon as I sober up from new years, I'm going to be seriously shaking shit up.


So a good deal of the starbar bugs are fixed, but it hasn't been implemented everywhere yet. If there are any remaining show-stoppers let me know. Also I did another thing I never thought I'd do and made a quick Facebook widget which does dumb stuff like tell your friends when you make or favorite a YTMND and adds pretty junk to your otherwise bland profile. Check it out if you actually have any friends to share with.



Have a good holiday and a happy new year. Don't drink and drive.

-Max

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December 25th, 2007
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also happy kwanza
December 25th, 2007
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in befor razor gator
December 25th, 2007
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shave smooth
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HEY GUYS WHATS UP
December 25th, 2007
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in b4 moot
December 25th, 2007
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Votes still aren't going through for me on specific sites but I can vote just fine on others.
December 25th, 2007
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Go here to re-initialize your widget. There was a problem with your Widget!
December 25th, 2007
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If we're all online and commenting at Christmastime, I'd say we still have some fondness left for the site. I personally don't really have any qualms with ytmnd, but I guess I'm not as hardcore as a lot of other people, ya know?
December 25th, 2007
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How about updating the featured users? Guys like Dmaz, Wisdumcube, & ChickenSoda should be pink. If you're going to implement a system in order to get people to produce better YTMNDs, those who make the effort to do so should be rewarded.
December 25th, 2007
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Oh and Happy Hanukkah
December 25th, 2007
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woops, broke the fb thing for a minute. try now. as for featured users, they are probably going away or changing drastically.
December 25th, 2007
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yay
December 25th, 2007
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What did you get for Christmas Max? Oh wait...
December 25th, 2007
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i got a cafepress mousepad
December 25th, 2007
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cool beans
December 25th, 2007
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happy festivus
December 25th, 2007
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t-shirts!! also i think you should put a priority on fixing sound issues especially making it platform independent. syncing is still a pain in the ass. i like your solution 2 idea to choose which would allow us to choose which wrapper is best for that particular ytmnd. also, stickers with our t-shirts!
December 25th, 2007
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oh and as for emotions (yes I looked at the TODO list), I say leave them off, comments are better then they "say" something rather than show it. Showing something is for the sites themselves.
December 25th, 2007
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max you clown merry christmas also no more pink <3
December 25th, 2007
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Also, just to run with your collaboration idea. Perhaps a dropdown or rollover tab which displays all sites that users put up who want to collaborate on and you can add on to their collaboration in you'll see all the other possible collaborations tiered under the original concept and users can vote on which would be best end product but ultimately giving control to the originator. It should show on the top left that it was a collaborationYTMND and users can click on all the other tiered ones to0o.
December 25th, 2007
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also dogs?
December 25th, 2007
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also, it just got really gay in here...
December 25th, 2007
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While I liked the idea of the feature user, I think it backfired. IMO, there were quite a few people on the list who should have never been put on it (Ollj for starters) and a lot of people who should be on it (AwesomeBob). People also turned it into a class envy group. It may be worth retooling the qualifications and deleting the feature user box, but keep the pink highlight.
December 25th, 2007
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merry christmas. All I have to say.
December 25th, 2007
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December 25th, 2007
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Tallyho! Let's get this sh*t started!
December 25th, 2007
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I poked you on facebook, max.
December 25th, 2007
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Drink, THEN drive.
December 25th, 2007
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don't worry max i'm willing to discuss anything
December 25th, 2007
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Moot called. Said you left your wallet in his pants.
December 25th, 2007
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Happy Jewmas
December 26th, 2007
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moot is dead
December 26th, 2007
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one feature i would like is to have the option to ignore all fearcondoms sites. can this be done . PM me . i love you
December 26th, 2007
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all i wanted for christmas was a ytmnd t-shirt. thanks for nothing
December 26th, 2007
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lol. redundant comment.
December 27th, 2007
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i wanna know... what's the most a comment been upvoted? I have a +123 on one of mine, just want to know...
December 28th, 2007
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[ Just wanted to add that the preloader seems to work now in Opera 9.5 beta, since you love that browser so much :) ]
December 28th, 2007
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also, fa la la la la ;D
January 6th, 2008
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In after c*cksmoker
January 6th, 2008
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Make alts viewable by ip. That makes no sense but I will clarify. Like use an ip or something and if someone posts on an alt it will show all the other users that have been logged in under that ip. That way I can see who some of these *ssh*les are that pretend you're buds on their main then bomb your sites and talk sh*t on an alt. Also a cycling section of sites rated over 4 would be f*cking awesome. Only rated over four though cuz I remember some of those sites in the worthwhile section were god awful.
January 6th, 2008
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And more cheese doodles. I need more to shove up my ass. I am trying to turn my intestines orange.
January 6th, 2008
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+- "Hardcore mode" option. +-- When you sign up, you must make one site, if it gets a rating under 2.5 +-- for a period of 24 hours, your account gets deleted. That would be f*cking awesome haha. Also you could use the section of sites rated 4 or higher (And maybe do it by number of views to because alot of big ytmnds are low rated but highly viewed) to redo the hall of fame. Have an option to vote the site into the hall of fame. Also making the turning on or off NSFW sites thing a little more
January 6th, 2008
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apparent would be good because some of my best work is NSFW'd and I bet more than half of the casual browsers of the site have nsfw turned off thus never getting to see my stuff. @- Anonymous site authoring @-- The ability to create a new site and hide your identity for ~3 hours after the site is made. @-- The site/profile will not show your user name until the site is 3 hours old. @-- Additionally the site will only show up in your profile for you and your friends. I like that idea.
January 6th, 2008
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@- Consider making a full site template version in flash that can be embedded anywhere. That would be coo. @- Think of some clever way to deal with user collaborations on profile pages. You could do like you guys were doing in #?! with the themed nights. That was awesome but a bit elitest because only a select few heard about it. @- Company Sponsored contests Good Idea @- Paid features and useless upgrade sh*t. Good Idea. I sent you a message about this I think. Like private ultima online servers
January 6th, 2008
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!--- Calling Max a kike, etc. LOLZ You can buy this novel at all major bookstores.
January 6th, 2008
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P.S. I said awesome like 5 times! AWESOME DUDE RIDE THE LIP! SURF THE TUBE DUDE!!
January 6th, 2008
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Also a webcam section so people can watch me fap to money-hats money suit guy pic.
December 25th, 2007
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hi
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hi
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dead puppies
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hi
December 25th, 2007
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Very near the beginning!
December 25th, 2007
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not right now you aren't
December 25th, 2007
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when i'm on a user's favorites list, and then click on the "sites" tab, it directs me to their votes. please fix this.
December 25th, 2007
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It finally got fixed after all this time.
December 25th, 2007
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thanks
December 25th, 2007
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merry christmas
December 26th, 2007
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The kwanza is the currency of Angola.
December 25th, 2007
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Pron Haul
December 25th, 2007
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ROHN PAULA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 25th, 2007
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Paula Abdul!
December 31st, 2007
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Abdula-Muhammed-Jabar
December 25th, 2007
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Merry Christmas! nice to hear whats going on.
December 25th, 2007
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Like over here, LoadMan
December 25th, 2007
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In before all the people below me.
December 25th, 2007
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what if they reply to something above you?
December 25th, 2007
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What I said was a sufficient but NOT necessary condition for being before someone, so my statement still stands since any comments below mine were indeed made after my first one. Nice try, novice.
December 25th, 2007
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Deffinitely adding the facebook thing and my friends will be like "wtf" and I'll be like, "yeah, that's right, YTMND, and yes, I did make one involving a penis, how nice of you to notice" anyway... THANKS MAX!
December 25th, 2007
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that's been around for awhile I think. someone I know that has a facebook told me about it nearly a month ago.
December 25th, 2007
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i made it in a day, like last week.
December 25th, 2007
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just struck me, this was something else. he typed in one of my sites into some section on his facebook and to other people it would automatically show up with a title like "A YTMND by prairiedogeric10". I don't use facebook, that's why I'm having a difficult time describing it.
December 25th, 2007
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I think the facebook app is great! It will probably bring a lot of people to the site as well if enough people use it
December 26th, 2007
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The facebook app's looking sweet, people just need to get onboard. MAZEL TOV MAX
December 25th, 2007
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hai
December 25th, 2007
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thx for all the work max.
December 25th, 2007
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Merry Christmas max
December 25th, 2007
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This site is like YouTube now, with the mini-movies, comment ratings, favorites, and a proposed subscription thing. Might want to add runtimes, and a pause button if I want to go take a piss.
December 25th, 2007
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Merry christmas Max, good effort to keep the site still the best of the interbutts.
December 25th, 2007
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Avatars please.
December 25th, 2007
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Moot? Why are you having that dinner with that peice of sh*t?
December 25th, 2007
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wow, I started reading the TODO, and I don't know if I can go on... I've never been good with any programming stuff, so looks like I'm no help...
December 25th, 2007
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scroll down, there is a lot of non-technical stuff that is easy to understand.
December 25th, 2007
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I want to track my comments and get some happy happy joy joy points for overall positive comments. I would like to be able to track back to comments I've made. I want an Orange Box-style pat-on-tbe-back progress like "You have beaten your record for most sites today! Here's a cookie!"
December 25th, 2007
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http://api.ytmnd.com/todo/#SITE_AWARDS___USER_AWARDS
December 25th, 2007
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Rewards for positive comments would suck ass, because theres a handful of people circle jerking the comment ratings on the front page sites and everyone else doesn't care. Plus it's another reason to make alts.
December 27th, 2007
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ENGRISH PLZ
January 3rd, 2008
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i agreed with what zorgzorg said so +'d his comment then realised that that kinda went against what he/she said. Now my brain hurts from the paradox thanks a lot.
December 25th, 2007
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step 1: delete the featured users section
December 25th, 2007
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step 2: Make Mr-Aran the only featured user.
December 26th, 2007
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Step 3: Profit!
December 27th, 2007
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step 4: cut a hole in a box
January 5th, 2008
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Rinse, Repeat.
December 25th, 2007
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thanks for the effort, just make sure the mods have the power to do what has to be done and let them do it
December 25th, 2007
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I nsfw'd your comment
December 25th, 2007
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all glory to the bubble tape
December 25th, 2007
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keke lol btaped
December 25th, 2007
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I always like the idea of a YTMND policing force. But even if 1 out of 10 mods abused it, it would do far more harm than good (BTape smells. I hate his sites. OOPS NSFW'ed you again) *no BTapes were hurt in the writing of this comment
December 27th, 2007
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BTape has gone mad with powah!!!
December 25th, 2007
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Merry Christmas noobs.
December 25th, 2007
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Thanks Max.
December 25th, 2007
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hey max when your done with the mod system in 2 years, you should fiddle around with embedded YTMND's
December 25th, 2007
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lovin the dog thing w/ mambo #5
December 25th, 2007
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of course, right after I say that, the music is changed to barking jingle bells
December 25th, 2007
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does the dog get a special-colored name for his YTMND tat?
December 25th, 2007
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It needs to be Air's song "Alpha Beta Gaga". The puppy originally showed up on June 13, 2007, the day after Featured Users were introduced. I believe syncan is the one that created the puppy. Here's a site telling about it: http://imbackandthinnertoo.ytmnd.com.... that site has an epic profile number (776655). It wasn't just the puppy on the front page, sparkles were falling down the page like snow. Max, please change it to that, sparkles and Alpha Beta Gaga. It would make my Christmas.
December 25th, 2007
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^along with the puppy
December 25th, 2007
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Max and Moot. Tag team internet gods.
December 25th, 2007
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and what do internet gods talk about over dinner? sh*tting sick nipples.
December 25th, 2007
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dick nipples* my bad.
December 26th, 2007
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more like tag team internet goods
December 25th, 2007
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"Check it out if you actually have any friends to share with."
December 25th, 2007
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"Suggest to a friend of some sort." I like the idea- provided these suggestions remain with my friends. Suggestions from people I don't know could be very annoying.
December 25th, 2007
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Input favorite users, do away with pink.
December 25th, 2007
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its gonna take awhile for max to figure out how to implement btape's sh*tty javascript code. (jk lol)
December 25th, 2007
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I would like to be a mod. I'm a good 10-15 years older than the average YTMNDer. I'm sure I'm one of the few people here who has a career. I don't hold grudges against people and I'm fair. Hopefully, BTape will vouch for me.
December 25th, 2007
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hey now
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Pretty good, but can I hear you say "Hey Now?!"
December 25th, 2007
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HEY NOW!
December 25th, 2007
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I agree that the oldest users should be made moderators. Long live the geriocracy.
December 25th, 2007
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I think me, AwesomeBob, CreepPipe and Gr33nscr33n should be mods.
December 25th, 2007
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You aren't listening. It doesn't matter who the mods are because right now they can't do anything useful. Rather than saying you'd like to be a mod, come up with a policy you think the entire community should follow. Do something that lets us know you are serious about cleaning the place up.
December 25th, 2007
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Yeah, "listen" is one thing hank doesn't do well.
December 25th, 2007
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IMO we should take a page from 4chan and have our mods be unknown to everyone but the ubermods (which we could use a few more of) and have them in charge of NSFW'ing, temp-banning flagrant rule violators, and abusive site deletion. If someone says they got banned for some sh*t reason, and it turns out someone abused the power, the ubermod just drops them off mod duty.
December 25th, 2007
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Well, I believe I have stated in many past news sections some things that could be done. But if you want I can write something up and send it to you at a later date. I'm not talking about becoming a mod tomorrow, but when you get everything in place. As far as programming something to help, I can't do that. I can't even fake programming. Even the APIs confused me. I have no skill. I understood BASIC--sort of, but nothing else.
December 26th, 2007
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"Yeah, "listen" is one thing hank doesn't do well." cuz he's old.... and probably smelly
December 26th, 2007
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Zorgzorg has got to be the smartest one of the bunch, he has my vote
December 26th, 2007
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I, for one, read "cold" news threads, I made a post on the last one like 20 min before I saw this one and posted on it... I guess it just beats doing my college applications....
December 29th, 2007
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why not stop allowing new users for a 2 month period. exclusivity is cool. plus i can't keep up with everyones alts.
December 29th, 2007
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When I ask for feedback, I spend a good deal of time re-reading news comments, so posting late isn't in vain.
December 25th, 2007
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What you need is an assistant. I know this one girl who has the costume already.
December 25th, 2007
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You had dinner with the man who ruined the internet.
January 1st, 2008
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max bought the rights to 50millionGET. it's going to be WHEN I WAS
December 25th, 2007
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nice Tears For Fears inspired title, max...
December 25th, 2007
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I haven't gone through the TODO list yet, but the randomizing on the random and worthwhile sections need to be improved. The random list only brings up really bad sites from 2004 and the worthwhile section only highlights sites with a rating from 3.5-3.9 from 2005. Why did that change from being above 4.01? If you get rid of the featured user box, replace it with the worthwhile box. That's one of the better sections of the site.
December 26th, 2007
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I was glad when the Worthwhile section was removed because it always seemed to bring up lousy sites, although I like the basic concept after thinking about it more. I'd be all for bringing it back if the requirements were more restrictive (like, say, a minimum 4.1 rating, 10,000 views, and 500 votes).
December 25th, 2007
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I really like the Friends And Enemies section... even though I don't make enemies... or friends :(
December 25th, 2007
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I say dat we need 2 b able 2 start liek, ytmnd clanz, so dat ppl can liek, comment gang, dat way no1 dont have friendz, and every1 feels wanted.
December 27th, 2007
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fail
December 25th, 2007
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Forums Note VBulletin is sh*t, from the looks of it they have no plan to ever support LDAP or anything like it. So, I give up investing any real amount of time into it. delete them altogether
December 25th, 2007
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we need some edits on that cute YTMND dog
December 25th, 2007
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that dog is just fine the way it is
December 25th, 2007
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too late i drank and drove but im fine
December 25th, 2007
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Who initiated this dinner?
December 25th, 2007
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I'm in the first 100! Woo! Also Merry Christmas
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don't drink and drive, make ytmnds
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Yay! It's the Cottonelle puppy!
December 25th, 2007
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MOOTLE!
December 25th, 2007
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merry christmas
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ban BTape. fight 4 f*cks.
December 25th, 2007
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thank you for all you do
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$100
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The enemy/troll thing seems exploitable. Watch spy and add anyone who downvotes one of your sites as your enemy. Users could form a list of all regular users with low voting averages and make them all enemies to protect ratings of future sites. I would stick with just blocking the comments/sites of users you don't like.
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"I think it is key to come up with a set of rules that will be enforced under any circumstances... What needs to happen is a group of dedicated users need to get together and analyze common behaviors across the site and decide what should be shunned and what should be rewarded. Until we come up with that clear, policy, moderation will be moot and fail overall." Okay, here goes:
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Unlike all of you, I ate my christmas dinner at the table and not at the computer.
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I'm in a rush and can't read all of the news tonight, but i hope the "sent" messages tab in my inbox can get deleted, because it slows the account down a lot.
December 25th, 2007
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Where's the off button for the music?
December 25th, 2007
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right on the .45 on your desk
December 25th, 2007
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BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
December 25th, 2007
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And so this is christmas....and when have we f*cked...lets hope its a sh*tty one...full of wet sh*t and TEARS I WANNA TEAR YOUR ASSHOOLLLEEE AND SUCK OUT THE SH*TTTTTTT LETS FUKC OUR OWN FATHERSSSSS AND SUCKLE TEEEEEEEEEETS. merry chirsmtas :D
December 25th, 2007
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happy hanakah, max.
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I love syncan's puppy. I liked it better when Alpha Beta Gaga was playing
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I bet you are, crusher.
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F*ck stupid thing
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haha
December 25th, 2007
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Hello max, my typical comment consists of "omfgwin" or "this sh*t is COX", but your post today has inspired me to give some constructive criticism. First and foremost, I feel you should make ytmnd more newbie friendly. Honestly, in its current state, it isnt. In fact, my own getting into it took a bit of showing around from my friend. Call me an idiot, but I'm just the average guy surfing the web for funny sh*t. With the current anti-newbie feel, this site gets a lot of dumb computer-crazed teenagers[cont]
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and WoW crazed guys from WoW forums across the web. I often try to refer my friends to ytmnd, but they always ask a ton of (in my view) obvious questions. Sure, I dont want this turning into an internet fad like youtube, myspace or even ebaums. But the kind of humor promiment on ytmnd will scare most total morons away. Despite seeming simple and dumb, most of this humor is relativly complex. Secondly, and less importantly, the search feature. Fad categories pl0x? Being able to browse based [cont again]
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did I interrupt your cont
December 25th, 2007
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what the ytmnd hints at would be awesome, and very convenient. And finally, please, please, dont give mods far too much power. A powerful mod base will scare away much of the community. I dont visit newgrounds as frequently for this reason [mainly]. I mean comeon, getting my profile muted for saying "Blam this sh*t!", is utter bs. You turn the site into an oligarchy, which will require your watchful eye much more. Sure allow mods to take action, but dont hand it over like most sites do. Thanks.
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you could also cut down on the number of people who want to become mods by not letting them create sites, but letting them keep and edit the sites they already made before becoming mods. I think that this would "up" the seriousness of moderation quite a bit, although I can see this resulting in every single mod who creates YTMNDs having alt-accounts...
December 25th, 2007
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I'd really like to be able to see exactly who votes on the ytmnds I make. It would make it a lot easier to catch downvoters.
December 25th, 2007
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It would make it a lot easier for retarded dumbasses to revenge downvote too.
December 25th, 2007
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I jsut started reading the comments page from previous years, and geez. It's like WW2 all over again.
December 25th, 2007
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I don't really like the idea of having MySpace like user profiles. There's enough places online for that now, and I think the spirit of YTMND has always been that it doesn't really matter who makes something as long as its funny. If you ask me, you should give priority to the entires that pertain more to improving the site as it exists now, like improving the HoF and flagging "unknown" YTMNDs.
December 25th, 2007
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Agreed on making the HoF a living entity. Plus its obvious you're working towards a "Sites I bet you'll cream over" section (haven't read TODO but I can guess). So many sites are lost in the sea of endless crap. Even a bot that shaved off sites with under a 2.4 rating or some such random number might help cut down on the sh*t a little
December 25th, 2007
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To be honest, I never really understood how the moderation system would change YTMND. It might help stop the alts, but build a better wall and they will just dig under it. People will always try to sh*t in our cereal. More mods would help, but I never felt we needed a mobilized policing force. As for suggestions on the future of YTMND, BTape's friends UI would be great for the site if you guys worked together to integrate it. YTMND is about 2 things: community and stupid crap. And the later is all set.
December 25th, 2007
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The ability to delete comments please
December 25th, 2007
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so that ytmnd users can de-troll their own sites
December 25th, 2007
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The ability to delete and edit your own comments...yea
December 25th, 2007
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also the ability to disable anyone from commenting on a site at site creation would be nice
December 25th, 2007
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ability to delete your own comments... sounds nice, but I like that what we say is pertinent. Holds us accountable for our own asshattery
December 25th, 2007
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I like comments, even if they are insults or spam. I seem to get more of a kick out of comments than sites at times. Maybe for users that would want it, give them the ability to manually hide comments that they don't want to see.
December 25th, 2007
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"ability to disable anyone from commenting on your site" I disagree. Comments and receiving comments (negative or positive) is half the fun.
December 25th, 2007
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I disagree. If you dont like someones comments, go cry. An adequate mod system will stop spammers and overly active flamers (serious comment freedom is a big part of ytmnd for me, but flaming can definitely be done with). A good mod system could work this out much better than the dog eat dog anarchy that would ensue if you allowed everyone to delete anyones comments.
December 25th, 2007
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you're right, it would probably be misused anyway... everytime someone says "guy above me is true" that guy will probably change it to, "guy below me is gay." or some dumb sh*t
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"asshattery" ftw D00D!
December 25th, 2007
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Max, I think the site is about as good as it needs to be... YTMND's popularity has been steadily declining (#1 top viewed on a good day will get 10,000 views when it used to get 25-35 thousand). Find a way to double YTMND's popularity, and you'll be able to build an Arco on your city!
December 25th, 2007
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also, there needs to be greater incentives for having really great sites besides just "You're pink!" Maybe a statistics page? Or standings? There's something fun and interesting about being competitive against fellow ytmnder's. Maybe a YTMNDER of the Week (or month?) award. Idk.....
December 25th, 2007
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Pink is fun, but I feel like that would just make one big YTMND circle jerk. We're uber-cliquey as it is
December 25th, 2007
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hmm, I totally agree on a need for getting more people into ytmnd (but rather none than a bunch of mindless myspace teen zombies), but I disagree with a big emphasis on stats and standings. Ytmnd is a community, not a battlefield.
December 25th, 2007
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"YTMND is a community, not a battlefield." You're a f*ggot
December 25th, 2007
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jk chum /me agrees
December 25th, 2007
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slight anger followed by instant gratification. quicker, and more sensational than masturbation. Thank you MrStump.
December 26th, 2007
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Of course then you have queerbags like me who in addition to being a perfectionist won't bother making any site he knows won't get high ratings cause he doesn't want to upset my all-time-average-site-rating or whatever.. cuz that happens already believe me
December 27th, 2007
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That's a good point, Savage. And I've heard that before about people needing greater incentives to make good ytmnds. Pretty much if posting a site here - FOR FREE - and having between 50,000 to 100,000 (or more) people see it and tell you how great you are isn't enough incentive then you need to just leave and never come back. And it's pretty lame that it's always people who are featured on the front page - by name - no matter how good or bad their site is who say this
January 6th, 2008
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Touche Umfuld. Why not just say my name in there :)
December 25th, 2007
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Thanks for putting the effort in, Max.
December 25th, 2007
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The facebook thing sounds sweet. Thanks macks :D
December 25th, 2007
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Can someone explain what the f*ck the blue next to some of the comments means anyway? Because I always thought "You know, blue for someone with a higher + to his comments and red for someone with a majority of - for his comments would be sweet." but I can't tell if that is what is going on here or not. If not, can we do that?
December 25th, 2007
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Comment Highlighting New comments appear with a bright shade of blue. As comments age this highlight will fade. Unchecking this option box will turn off comment highlighting. http://wiki.ytmnd.com/YTMND:Options#Comment_Highlighting
December 26th, 2007
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Thank you tape. Still, any chance of doing something with the +/- comment tool?
December 25th, 2007
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An entire facelift of the css on this website is a start. Something I've been pining since you went to Home Depot and you returned with the Mango and Pancake Badder combo.
December 26th, 2007
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Agreed and have reiterated this since the change.
December 25th, 2007
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"similar issues" with moot? don't tell me you also enjoy candid photography of young children
December 25th, 2007
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you dont care about christmas; you're a f*cking jew
December 25th, 2007
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straighten out what ytmnd needs, as opposed to what ytmnd doesn't need. work on that moderation system to help ytmnd move forward, as opposed to ytmnd standing still. make this place better, not worse. happy new year.
December 26th, 2007
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kwanzaa is a bullsh*t holiday created by a black supremacist who believed christians were the reason nobody liked black people, so he got all butthurt about christmas and made his own sh*tty week long holiday. f*ck kwanzaa
December 26th, 2007
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The best solution would be for Max to sell out to moot and be head admin of a /ytmnd/ board.
December 26th, 2007
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superbe
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Max IS Santa.
December 26th, 2007
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so its gonna be more like MYtnd.com huh?
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